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#TodayILearned that when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, Ukraine inherited the world's third largest nuclear arsenal with some 1,700 warheads.

In 1994, #Ukraine gave up its nukes, transferring them to #Russia, in exchange for security guarantees from the US, UK, and Russia.

With Russia's recent invasion of Ukraine, Russia is considered to be in violation of this agreement, and some think it was a mistake for Ukraine to give up it's nukes.

#TIL

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

the Minsk Accord, isn't it?

everyone except the russians reneged on it, look at how long that strategic plan must have been in place! it was 20 years later the CIA ran a color revolution and after 8 years of literal nazis anti-russians running around killing russians in the east of the country the russians decided to put a stop to it... 14000 russians were slaughtered according to russian information

look at that history... the russians let this slide for 28 years while they surely had been finding out information about mischief going on for at least 18 of those years

i hear a lot of things from russian guys about how shit their country is but honestly, if russia is shit then UK, USA, france, germany, poland, all shit also

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Marakesh 𓅦 1y ago

Perplexity.ai says it was the Budapest Memorandum (though I know AI sometimes hallucinates)

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-happened-to-the-nuclear-w-U0Wsn5YvTF2.dd2PIlU7kw#0

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

ah yup, minsk was after the CIA backed coup to take over ukraine in 2014, so the "allies" have reneged on two agreements regarding enabling rogue elements and attempting to expand NATO up to the border of Russia

Minsk was pretty clear they were not to do this, but when you go back to the Budapest Memorandum it becomes obvious that they had been escalating this since the late 90s at least... consider that while this was happening they were in the middle of destroying yugoslavia too

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

so anyway, i just don't see how russia was the aggressor in this

i remember the Maidan Coup it was big news in Bulgaria at the time, i was in prison, i think it was just after i was moved to low sec for the last 4 months of my sentence

the evidence is ample that this was orchestrated with the material assistance of NATO and one of the key goals of the new regime was joining NATO, which is a direct contravention of both Minsk and Budapest

buncha fucking loony murderous psychopaths

Marakesh 𓅦 1y ago

Yeah, I'm pretty much on Russia's side in this conflict, though I really just want the killing to stop.

I would ask what you went to prison for, but I know that's not polite. But I've also found that people who have been locked up often seem to bring that fact up.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i was locked up for selling drugs on the dark web... due to funny information they decided to send special police to arrest me and if it weren't for how resilient my skull is they may have caused serious permanent damage, the doctors could not believe i didn't have a skull fracture... they broke 4 of my ribs though, jumping on my back, and then the dude who broke my ribs proceeds to slam my head against the ground maybe 7 times because breakfall reflex my right arm was forwards and he was on my back so it was very awkward to let him turn it back, in the end he actually had to get up a bit so i could rotate my shoulder... pretty funny he had no idea how badly he had smacked my head

i think a lot of people would have been unconscious from what he did to me that day, God bless my concrete head lol!

yeah, something i learned from that is if i ever find myself being attacked, my head is probably my beast weapon, because almost certainly theirs is softer

Marakesh 𓅦 1y ago

Thanks for sharing. Glad you're alright! Were you able to sue them for how they roughed you up? (I know it wasn't in America, and even there the cops can abuse with impunity at times).

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

yeah, the lawyers and whatnot all talked about it and i probably could have had a settlement of upwards of 40k euros for the excessive force, but i knew that was probably going to be a 5 year long drama and i wouldn't have been able to return to my beloved new home bulgaria without being harassed by them

probably turned out to my advantage because after i returned from a year homeless in the netherlands, the sofia cops picked me up a few times as i was roaming around homeless and then never talked to me again, almost like half the offices in the city had all seen my photo and heard my story

as far as i am aware, my case won them a giant grant from Europol to "fight the dark web"