#TodayILearned that when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, Ukraine inherited the world's third largest nuclear arsenal with some 1,700 warheads.
In 1994, #Ukraine gave up its nukes, transferring them to #Russia, in exchange for security guarantees from the US, UK, and Russia.
With Russia's recent invasion of Ukraine, Russia is considered to be in violation of this agreement, and some think it was a mistake for Ukraine to give up it's nukes.
#TIL
With Ukraines ambitions to join NATO they broke agreements as well (some people say)
the Minsk Accord, isn't it?
everyone except the russians reneged on it, look at how long that strategic plan must have been in place! it was 20 years later the CIA ran a color revolution and after 8 years of literal nazis anti-russians running around killing russians in the east of the country the russians decided to put a stop to it... 14000 russians were slaughtered according to russian information
look at that history... the russians let this slide for 28 years while they surely had been finding out information about mischief going on for at least 18 of those years
i hear a lot of things from russian guys about how shit their country is but honestly, if russia is shit then UK, USA, france, germany, poland, all shit also
Perplexity.ai says it was the Budapest Memorandum (though I know AI sometimes hallucinates)
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-happened-to-the-nuclear-w-U0Wsn5YvTF2.dd2PIlU7kw#0
ah yup, minsk was after the CIA backed coup to take over ukraine in 2014, so the "allies" have reneged on two agreements regarding enabling rogue elements and attempting to expand NATO up to the border of Russia
Minsk was pretty clear they were not to do this, but when you go back to the Budapest Memorandum it becomes obvious that they had been escalating this since the late 90s at least... consider that while this was happening they were in the middle of destroying yugoslavia too
so anyway, i just don't see how russia was the aggressor in this
i remember the Maidan Coup it was big news in Bulgaria at the time, i was in prison, i think it was just after i was moved to low sec for the last 4 months of my sentence
the evidence is ample that this was orchestrated with the material assistance of NATO and one of the key goals of the new regime was joining NATO, which is a direct contravention of both Minsk and Budapest
buncha fucking loony murderous psychopaths
Yeah, I'm pretty much on Russia's side in this conflict, though I really just want the killing to stop.
I would ask what you went to prison for, but I know that's not polite. But I've also found that people who have been locked up often seem to bring that fact up.
i was locked up for selling drugs on the dark web... due to funny information they decided to send special police to arrest me and if it weren't for how resilient my skull is they may have caused serious permanent damage, the doctors could not believe i didn't have a skull fracture... they broke 4 of my ribs though, jumping on my back, and then the dude who broke my ribs proceeds to slam my head against the ground maybe 7 times because breakfall reflex my right arm was forwards and he was on my back so it was very awkward to let him turn it back, in the end he actually had to get up a bit so i could rotate my shoulder... pretty funny he had no idea how badly he had smacked my head
i think a lot of people would have been unconscious from what he did to me that day, God bless my concrete head lol!
yeah, something i learned from that is if i ever find myself being attacked, my head is probably my beast weapon, because almost certainly theirs is softer
Thanks for sharing. Glad you're alright! Were you able to sue them for how they roughed you up? (I know it wasn't in America, and even there the cops can abuse with impunity at times).
yeah, the lawyers and whatnot all talked about it and i probably could have had a settlement of upwards of 40k euros for the excessive force, but i knew that was probably going to be a 5 year long drama and i wouldn't have been able to return to my beloved new home bulgaria without being harassed by them
probably turned out to my advantage because after i returned from a year homeless in the netherlands, the sofia cops picked me up a few times as i was roaming around homeless and then never talked to me again, almost like half the offices in the city had all seen my photo and heard my story
as far as i am aware, my case won them a giant grant from Europol to "fight the dark web"
Its always a mistake to give up nukes.
Every country that has done so has become a cautionary tale for others.
Except Brazil, but maybe the curse is catching up to them now...
It seems similar to what happens to people in countries that let governments take their guns away...
100%
The book I'm reading ("The World: A Family History of Humanity" by Simon Sebag Montefiore) curiosly states "Qaddafi, fearful that he was next for the Saddam treatment, surrendered his nuclear programme: he was welcomed into the western family."
How can he say Qaddafi "was welcomed into the western family" when, in the same book he notes: "On 20 October, near Sirte, NATO got him. Qaddafi, wounded and hiding in a drainage pipe, was captured, wounded in the stomach, then, filmed on a smartphone, sodomized with a bayonet and finally shot dead. Watching the video of the tormented tyrant, Putin saw himself: βYou could end up losing Russia. Qaddafi thought heβd never lose Libya but the Americans tricked him.β So this was American freedom: βAll the world saw him being killed, all bloodied. Is that democracy?β" π€¨
Russia (and not Ukraine) held the nuclear codes to actually use those weapons
