Deletion is a centralized concept. You can’t delete things on a decentralized network. If you could then you could also censor.

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relay.damus.io未来会停止支持nip09吗?

Well that makes more sense. But if it's technically possible, then what's fake and ghey is denying us the function should we want it. And if it's not technically possible then it's not an issue. But since it requires private or public keys I fail to see the censorship holding water. Sounds to me like it's just not cool and groovy enough for "real devs".

NB: deleted (hopefully) and reposted for typos. And thus the need is demonstrated.

Sounds like you’d like some sort of event that refers to a previous event and asks relays to delete it. I think what Will is saying is that you can ask, but they don’t have to listen.

I think it’d be nice if there were a way to suppress one’s own previous messages, proving cryptographically that you were the person who generated the originals (or at least that you know the secret key of the person who did)

I think trying it would add significant overhead to relay costs though (think about how you’d implement it), and provides limited gains.

Is there a low cost way to implement it? Basically the problem is that relays that successfully hear your request need to store it for a long time, and always check to make sure they aren’t relaying the requested to be deleted note when they receive it from other relays who didn’t hear your request.

Some dude might stop running his relay after the regretted note and before the plz delete message, and then start it up again years later. If you or someone asks that relay for your note history, then his might not know the note you wanted suppressed was supposed to be.

The functionality is already there

Well said. In other words...

If you CAN delete it's NOT decentralized.

If you want centralized use anything but NOSTR.

But you can delete on NOSTR - I just did. So, given that it's possible with the protocols, I fail to see how denying the functionality on a client protects me the user from censorship by somebody who doesn't have my keys.

Pics or it didn't happen

Wait.. are bollocks balls, bobs or buttocks?

Probably

Can't we just propagate the delete message through the network, and hope for the best?

Criminal content can’t be deleted? Classified?

Frapes?

That's pretty much how deletion works. How many relays would need to concur?