At any moment for any reason they uninstallcthe app, there is no way to get it back. They dont have the apk available on github or their website. I wouldnt trust it from a third party source.
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WoS are tied to your email address.
As long as you control that, you probably can withdraw in some way. If enough people or funds are affected, they will probably provide some form to withdraw without installing the app.
An apk from a third-party source could be verified by any user with access to the app on the Play Store by checking for compatibility. So imagine I give you the version 4 apk and your friend in Norway can install the version 5 apk from Play Store. He now can install my apk and update it in the play app. If that works, both were signed by the same keys.
You can check the signature without installing it but that's a bit more involved for the layperson.
I know what you mean 💯
The worry I would have is this is the way people lpse their funds all the time and install malicious apps accidently. I dont believe you would do that by sharing this app! I have just naturally stayed away from getting apps this way. Same for sotes like apkmirror and others. Its a big risk, but it can work 💯. Just need to be cautious. I am already cautious with open source apps from Obtainium. Closed source apps from tbird parties terrify me. 😅🙏
Still have the app. The Abby wallet connection seems shitty. Probably transfer my funds (when I figure out how) or give them away. Makes me even less interested in the Bitcoin crap now. And in nostr as well.
I get you bro. Its discouraging for me as well. My bitcoin learning journey has been rough. But its our own fault for using WoS from the beginning. We knew it was non custodial all along. We knew a rug pull would be one day. This is only a call to be more self sovereign. 💪
Or just avoid Bitcoin all together.
Hmmm.. not sure about that. Patience my friend.
No thanks. Seems like a fad. Like MySpace.
Happily receiving your sats if you're out. Though it feels like you're trolling. Or maybe you haven't done your research and are very emotional 🤷🏻♂️
Bitcoin, though being around for 15 years is still new technology and we are all early adopters here, especially with the Lightning network. Lightning right now should be thought of as "in beta". It's very close to ready for mass market and closer every day but it is still in development, people are saying this all over the place so i am sorry to hear if this information slipped past you. I'm must say that if you didn't know all of this already, then you shouldn't have had much allocated and if you didn't have much allocated you would have nothing much to worry about. Don't put your life savings in lightning! And only put them on main chain when you have actually done your research and have developed understanding and conviction for the risk/reward.
I and many others here would genuinely like to help you understand all of the above so please if you have questions just ask. If it's not for you though... c'est la vie.
And say it with me people:
"Not your keys, not your coins"
Bitcoin is the EV of money.
Confirmed troll...
Y’all make it too easy
Taking advantage of the kindness and curiosity of others for your own self satisfaction and some sense of self agrandizement is a real mental problem. Seek therapy.
What kindness are you referring too?
Whatever bro... you've proved yourself beyond help so i'm out ✌🏼
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Fact is you don’t have an example of the kindness you referred too.
Look, this is my last comment unless you come back with something constructive or some humility.
If you can't see the helpfulness and kindness in this community then you see the world through a very dark lense indeed and I pity you. I honestly wish you the best in your life and hope that you find some light because you need it.
I’ve definitely gotten a lot of things from this community. That being all nostr users. From you, pretty much nothing. Nostr will be fine without Bitcoin. And very helpful in many ways. No Bitcoin needed.
It's good to hear that you're getting something from this community. 👍🏻
Maybe you missed the part in my post where I tried explaining a few things about lightning networks infancy and offered my assistance but however, as you didnt respond to that part of my note and just gave some troll-esque response then no, I guess you havent received any help from me, but that's on you. The offer still stands as long as common decency does.
You're right in saying that NOSTR doesnt need bitcoin. But personally (and i think most here would agree) it enhances the experience by allowing the transfer of value. You're allowed to disagree, that's the beauty of free speech right? 😘
Beauty indeed. Have a great weekend. And your explanation may be perfect, I am not at all interested. I’m here for pretty much everything but Bitcoin.
Come on, stop being so dramatic. No one got “rugged”. A business decided to no longer offer their services in the USA. Everyone can withdrawal their funds if they want. There are many companies that don’t offer their apps in certain jurisdictions.
Have you run your own node? Opened and maintained your own channels? It’s not an easy, or free thing to do.
Cash app, strike, and a myriad of other “good” companies don’t offer their services in my jurisdiction. Does that make them bad actors? Of course not. Custodial solutions are necessary for lightning right now, for the majority of users, because of all the choke points in running your own node. It won’t be like this forever. If I lose the 10$ - 20$ I have in a custodial lightning wallet so be it. It’s the price of playing the game.
This is a nuanced issue with many different individual circumstances that dictates one’s choice to use or not use a custodial lightning wallet. It’s not a simplistic “run your own node!” situation.
I didnt say half the things you mentioned. Its the way WoS did this. Where is the warning? Just pull the app, on Thanksgiving day? They know its the biggest onboarding day of the year basically. If you dont have the app installed now, good luck getting it. I dont have these worries. Im in Canada and stilk use WoS. Its Americans I feel bad for. Its a rug pull in some sense of definition. We all define things slightly differently. Nothing dramatic about these realizations.
That’s the best point. It’s just a game. Zapathons etc. Disconnecting Bitcoin from nostr is most likely a good thing for nostr. I like Damus. Never thought much about Bitcoin and zaps. But WoS just made Damus look bad. Like Trump on Twitter.
Smart take
Dumb take