lowercase 'b' is sats 
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Sats already have a symbol: https://satsymbol.com/
yea but that doesn't look like anything to anybody
Universal kebab sign.
It looks like doner kebab to me. π
And a lower case b with a squiggle up top does? That's a very poor argument to make. No currency symbol looks like anything to anyone until they're told what it is.
The Thai Baht ΰΈΏ was originally used as the Bitcoin symbol until βΏ was added to Unicode.
We can repeat a similar process, temporarily appropriating Ζ until Unicode adds a lowercase b with a vertical stroke.
Besides, Ethereum already uses the uppercase Greek letter Xi, Ξ, for Ether
Or we could just use the miscellaneous symbol that a lot of people already use for sats and already exists in Unicode U+2BD2 ⯒
that character didn't render in amethyst. what is it?
Whats wrong with δΈ°
1. wtf is that thing - it has no connection to any existing symbols or semantics
2. ether already uses it
3. a lowercase "b" is clearly related to the uppercase "B" and makes everyone happy - the people who want the "B" in there can compromise, and the people who want "sats" can be happy we're not using the "B" and can adjust to "b" meaning "sats"
People are already very, very accustomed to thinking in terms of Dollars and Cents. They can easily swap in whole "bitcoin" for "dollar" and "sats" for cents. Giving them symbols that are obvious (a lowercase "b" seems like a "little version" of the uppercase "B" they've seen everywhere) seems like a much friendlier ramp from stuff they're used to than some bizarre tree-looking thing. Bitcoin is weird enough and has enough new concepts as is.
This argument doesn't make sense in a sea of counterexamples.
I guess in a way you lowercase b idea is easy to understand and adopt, but the sat symbol on multiple different services is a vertical line with 3 horizontal lines going though it. But you've converted me π
I know that three horizontal line thing is pretty ubiquitous. We'll have to smash it together, now that you're converted β
1. It is connected to the sat symbol: https://satsymbol.com/
2. No, it doesn't
3. Lower casing the subunit is a made up convention, and already has a use.
No thanks, I'll stick to the sat symbol.
what makes that symbol the sat symbol?
It was somehow upvoted on Twitter quite a bit. All I know. I liked it until the b. Now I'm a b maxi
right, its just "the thing" because people liked it. they might also like the "b" - maybe more?
honestly, the "call sats 'bitcoin'" crowd is powerful and influential (especially with Square now) so just practically an alternative proposal that is going to have a chance can't ignore their success and try to do something else entirely - it probably needs to be a kind of concilitory response to the ground they've already gained. hence the 'b'.
"we get it, you're winning. will you compromise and at least just not use the uppercase 'B'? we can agree to that compromise". its like that.
I thought the Ο are bitcoin (lol I have lightning bolt saved as keyboard thing for word sats) thing was just a troll. It's silly imo, but don't care too much. I like bits too, since playing a little poker recently where that denomination of chips made the most sense.
The kebab symbol is overly complex and probably got upvoted because it felt like more impact per vote. Who wants to vote for boring "b"
I agree with all this. (probably even including the "bits" bit, but i'm still figuring that one out).
2. ETH uses Ξ . the similarity to the ultimate shitcoin is too much for me
3. and this 'sats symbol' isn't a made up convention? it's all made up, we're making it all up. we've got a chance to make something up that a wider audience will be able to recognize.
you really don't think that lowercasing a subunit doesn't have an immediate rationale to it, even for the uninitiated?
besides, the convention isn't *entirely* novel:
in computing, bytes are B, bits are b.
chemistry: m vs M (molal vs molar concentration)
math: p vs P (probability value vs measure)
I'm just saying if we're making it all up, you can't pretend like lower casing is some kind of well-known convention for currency subunits, when it really isn't. I get the rationalle of it, but it's not convincing.
A b will cause more confusion, because it's unclear what it stands for? "Bits"? "Bats"?
Sats are absolutely not bitcoins (boo BIP-177 π), and the symbol for it shouldn't even hint that way.
Besides, we have a symbol for sats, and it's an interesting, beautiful, meaningful and unique one. π
Well we definitely agree that sats are not bitcoins :)
It's the Kanji for "bountiful". Not a coincidence: https://satsymbol.com/
good symbol
vertical line will be better
I still love this https://www.satsymbol.com
It's a cool symbol, but the one nostr:nprofile1qqsza748zkamgmw4he4hm2xhwqpxd5gkwju38wqh3twmtshx8kv8xvgppamhxue69uhkgctdw4eju6t09uq3vamnwvaz7tm9v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qyv8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99uphz3ay is using is easier to write. I like that one more.
It also has the advantage of being in the available unicode set on most machines (because it's a symbol for the Thai Baht, which curiously is divided into 100 "satang"...)
The original βΏ started off as an appropriation of the ΰΈΏ until a proposal was accepted to add βΏ to unicode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht#Bitcoin
So we'd just be repeating this process for the lowercase for sats :)
Wait I got my facts a bit wrong. the Ζ is not associated with the baht. but the overall point remains:
We use Ζ until Unicode adds a "b" with vertical bar, like it did for βΏ
π€ maybe Satoshi was/is Thai... No one ever suspects the Thai... Historically friendly with Japan, too. Hmm. Hmmmmmm π€
I like this lower case b for sats more. The bar going down would make more sense, I think, and probably faster to write
Definitely a better option.
oh, that's lovely