Here's one I released in 1994 on WEA Records. It was a 12" promo ambient/experimental thing. Someone has thrown it up there on YT. It's a little cheesy and a bit too twinkly for my liking these days, but not a bad first effort for an untrained and slightly over-enthusiastic teenager ::

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JXozouM-c9w

Piped link: https://piped.video/watch?v=JXozouM-c9w

Invidious link: https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=JXozouM-c9w

Please listen with consideration for my proletariat background, my lack of musical and technical knowledge, and my....ahem...youthful exuberance (ignorance).

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I'm quite partial to twinkly/cheesy. Listen to a fair amount of new age ambient stuff. Sort of got that vibe to me. It's almost like an extended intro to a ltj bukem type track too.

Well I'm happy that you're into that and the Bukem thing is a big compliment 💕

And thanks for the bolt of lightening. You're a diamond x

This is pretty good for the era, the limitations and affordability of the gear at the time, and the inexperience of youth. As glhf pointed out, there's a touch of Bukem about it but also shades of Pete Namlook, who sometimes gets a bit twinkly for me but I still rate highly.

Pete Namlook, God rest his soul, and the early Eye Q records stuff, was one of my many early influences. It's lovely to know that someone familiar with his work can sense his vibe in there somewhere. Thanks for the compliment! Yeah is wasn't easy to get hold of the gear at that time. It was one of the biggest challenges.

Thanks for taking the time to listen.

People don't appreciate what it was like before the digital recording revolution. I was doing industrial stuff at the time and having to deal with the limitations of recording on 4-track cassette was incredibly frustrating and it was nearly impossible to get a big sound, just as I'm sure it would've been difficult to get a nice, clean ambience. Of course, now the young folk romanticize all that stuff.

Yeah it would've been very hard to get a big sound on the old 4-track cassette machines. I started that way - the cassette machine, a basic drum machine with presets only, a home keyboard from Argos, and a CD player with an A-B repeat function, which is how I did looped samples. It was a headache. A lot of trial and error whilst wearing the tape down with every pass. Thems were the daze! I can't imagine trying to do industrial stuff back then. It was only the brilliant Akai sampler that eventually opened things out for me in terms of beats. And what a godsend those things were!

I'm not sure how I managed to get a clean ambient sound with the kit that I managed to get hold of - it wasn't much (but a huge leap forward from the 4-track stuff). I think I must've been a bit flukey or maybe it was because it was all new...the DAT machine with clean heads, new cables, new Mackie mixer. It has to be said that Portrait Of An Invisible Garden was mastered beautifully by one of the most experienced mastering engineers around and it was pressed on high quality vinyl which helped a lot. But still, the clarity in the original recording was somewhat anomalous.

These days I'm on a mission to avoid that level of clarity. Everything sounds so perfect now. It's not good for my head. I love imperfection in music, especially ambient music. Having said that there's no accounting for a 'perfect' production if you're making something for a 50K sound system. You wouldn't want to burn people's ears, I suppose.

Well, when I say "industrial", I mean more of the earlier sound - Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse etc. Nothing particularly sophisticated or high fidelity but you still want it to have some body. My inability to get decent recordings led me to focus more on live performance and improv, which is fun.

I get you and yeah you need some depth in there. I love improv and as much as I enjoyed the small number of gigs I played the technological limitations of playing electronica live back then rapidly became frustrating. Totally different story now though, of course. Have you seen what Beardyman does? Amazing. It's gone flipmode.

I got in the habit of designing my stuff for performance at the outset and found that working within strict parameters suits me, particularly as the gear grew more affordable and elaborate. I can't get my head around what some people are able to achieve these days - it's incredible.

You have quite a bit up there on the ol' BC. I've only heard a few tracks so far. It's very intense and you're totally right - It's situational music. Very powerful stuff. I've got your profile bookmarked and returneth I upon mood highs and such in phuture times. Nice one brother.

That's very kind - thanks for listening! Yeah, there's a fair bit there and a lot more that I haven't bothered to upload. I've been at it since I was 16 and that was a long time ago now!

I've dabbled in other genres too. I was in a shoegaze band in my mid-teens and recently played multiple instruments in an improv Krautrock-style group for a decade. I've also made a lot of bad techno/ambient/IDM that hopefully no one will ever hear.

Nice - thank you for this. Looking forward to checking more of your stuff out.

You're welcome. It's a pleasure. Feel free to share anything you want with me.

Have a nice weekend.

Here's some of my stuff. I'll be the first to admit it's an acquired taste and it works much better in a live context at high volume.

https://suburbanfolkways.bandcamp.com/album/a-bright-hole-in-the-sky

Definitely needs to be played at high volume. Wow! You've got some deep stuff there mate.