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Thanks I will take a look at those authors you mentioned.

I'd like to be able to confirm that first part you mentioned regarding Engel's with data. Do you know where I might be able to confirm that?

I'm working on bringing a leftist friend over the void at the moment.

He cares about deeply family values (because he's sane), but was trained in college (of course) to bash capitalism.

I think I read it Thomas Sowell.

IIRC, the idea was to remove children from their parents and have the state indoctrinate them.

For your friend, check out issue 1 of Hammer of Freedom at arkhaven.com.

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