Dear Peter. Can you please explain to me how Ukraine can defeat Russia? Why it's not clear to me... in 3 years of war it is estimated that he lost a million soldiers. He lost all the territories he wanted to defend. Crimea, Donbass and even the invasion of Kursk went wrong. All this with the help of all the countries of NATO included the United States that have provided him with intelligence coverage, weapons of all kinds and financing of billions of dollars. Putin won this war with his hands behind his back against 33 countries born. Without doing the destruction on a clean slate in the Zionist style. And without using the 6000 nuclear warheads he has in his arsenal. If you want you can take Kiev in 3 days but you've never done it. Now with all these true and verifiable data (outside of the Western propaganda that Russia was already dead in 2022) and without the support of the United States, how does the Ukrainian defeat Russia? Can you explain it to me?
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You kill the Russian economy obviously. War is extremely expensive. At the moment a bit under half of all Russian tax dollars are going to it.
And how would you kill the Russian economy that has been trying with sanctions for 3 years but no one succeeds? This war was to be stopped in 22 in Istanbul when peace was about to be signed. Then Boris Johnson intervened to stop Zelensky. The rest is history. Russia has won. He won. Ukraine at the hands of the British has sent generations of Ukrainians to die for nothing. 🤷♂️
Agreed here. nostr:nprofile1qqsve2jcud7fnjzmchn4gq52wx9agey9uhfukv69dy0v4wpuw4w53nqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm0d9hx7uewd9hj7267ev3 why is it right to try to fight back against a government specifically by intentionally crippling its economy still further? Is that not an escalation of aggression, aggression against innocent Russian people? Are there not other means of defense? And who should be defending Ukraine? Certainly not slaves, but that is exactly what Ukrainian government has resorted to, in addition to immense amounts of tax dollars. Taxes, need I remind you, are theft.
Democratic war is an abomination. We should like to be civil and if our government cannot be civil, which it has demonstrated in abundance, why are we even discussing the strategy which they will never do justly or responsibly anyway? What is the fucking point of asking "Pretty please American Empire, kill these innocent people for me so these other innocent ones don't die."
The sanctions aren't very good. Russia still successfully sells lots of oil and gas.
Blowing up the infrastructure that produces and delivers that oil and gas would be much more effective.
And you're dead wrong on "Boris intervening". Russia was offering a "peace" deal that was effectively a total surrender. The only reason they did that was to fool idiots into thinking the war was Ukraine's fault.
The war is not the fault of Ukraine or even of Russia. Guess who unleashed it? The United States of America with Viktoria Nuland that in 2014 unleashed chaos in Kiev bringing to the regime the neo-Nazis piloted by the United States and the European Union
As long as we are talking strategy and consequentialism, why don't you just kill, or threaten to kill so to negotiate a treaty, the leaders in the chain of command? Why waste more resources with hurting Russian people? And Ukrainian soldiers for that matter? Many of whom are draftees of the Ukrainian government, just saying.
I don't think we can destroy russia by destroying its economy. putin will find money, or china will help.
The sad thing is that it is absolutely possible to defeat russia on the battlefield, provided we have the means and the will. unfortunately the entire “civilized” world is falling for russia's bluff.
sorry but you have distorted picture. ukraine has not lost million soldiers. "help from all NATO countries" is a joke, clearly you don't know the details. kursk was lost only because help from north korea. as example find the numbers ukraine spent on war (including help from west) and russia numbers. and then divide western help by ~3 because all western weapons cost way more than russians.
Listen for a moment. I don't say it. I'm not making it up. Zelensky said that they no longer have the strength to recover any territory. Yes, true! Russia was helped by North Korea in the Kursk. But Ukraine is 3 years old that it receives weapons aid from the United States and the European Union and also rain of billions. Russia has won make up your mind friends. The Azov battalion of the Zelensky Nazis was destroyed. And it went well that Putin doesn't give a damn about taking Kiev and Western Ukraine or he would have already taken it. Isn't it true that 1 million soldiers died? Have you seen the Ukrainian cemeteries?? Guys I know you hate Russia but the truth is that Russia won against NATO that fought by proxy with Ukrainian cannon meat. This is the truth 🤷♂️
> 3 years old that it receives weapons aid from the United States and the European Union and also rain of billions
lets talk example. do you know how many tanks Ukraine received during this war and how many tanks russia had at the beginning of the war?
But that's not the question! Who cares about tanks and how many they have or had. Who won this war? Russia! Period. Who has to dictate the rules of the negotiations now? Whoever wins the war then Russia! If Kiev accepted the Istanbul negotiations in the 22nd, would it have gained in hindse! Yes! It would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and would still have part of the territories🤷♂️ it's that simple! Who cares about the number of tanks or missiles. By now the war is over enough end!