I really do not understand why people using nostr or Bitcoin because of its morals, would use happily an iphone... Apple does not care about you and has a really bad track record even involving the chinese government.

They are also locked down and you are at complete mercy of apples intentions.

stop overpaying and using their devices for your daily data traffic!

No, iphones are not more secure in situations where you want to protect data. If you dont want hackers to access data, why would apple be okay?

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Nothings safe face it

Yes, only open source on every level can guarantee transperancy. opensource hardware is interesting.

I don’t trust nothing

Transparency doesnt equal trustability

My bet is still apple! I find it safer.

But it is not. There are 2 kinds of threats, one you can defend against (inbound) and one you cannot defend against (vendor lock-in, data collection etc.) Apple might be more secure in against threats where everybody can protect themselves if they are carefull enough, but it does not do a good job in the other area.

Remember: if the data collection of apple and google was done without their brandnames being recognized, security researchers would immeadiatly label them as one of the biggest threats in the cyberspace.

Yes somehow you are right. However, when I was using other brand I always get viruses. Til then I changed to apple.

It also depends on brands. You dont wanna use a chinese brand for example.

Thanks for the reminder I have to look at it.