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Thank you for presenting your sexual preferences as applying to more than just you. I appreciate you respecting me enough to project your preferences onto me. I respect that confidence in your sexuality.

You make the claim that gay sex can be rich, and that gay sex gives people pleasure and enjoyment, however just because someone enjoys something doesn't mean it's actually good. There are many cases where someone realizes they had a reason to hate something that they previously enjoyed, and they find that they can no longer enjoy it.

If something is rich and fulfilling then a person should be able to identify what makes it good without having to rely on pleasure and enjoyment alone. They should be able to identify why they might experience pleasure and enjoyment, and they should be able to identify what that pleasure and enjoyment may be about. For example, I can tell you what the deeper value might be in some straight sex. I can also tell you what the deeper value is in porn, in a specific instance or in general.

What can sex with another man give a man that he didn't already have? And that required sex?

Sparrow 8mo ago

The name checks out… nostr:npub14pa5q2kqs8ygfxuat02w88ezsle9wzwnu0meu7z2785t8rl0hhcspkxw3v. There is little value in my time trying to convince you what I believe or compel anything worthwhile out of you. Why? I don’t have an ounce of ego as to whether you agree with how I feel or not. The simple-minded approach you take was my only critique; bashing and making negative statements about things outside your worldview that don’t compute in your simple brain. Wooaahh, people seek pleasure!

Enjoy watching porn and never touching another human male or female you miserable fuck.

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Scoundrel 8mo ago

Would you be surprised if I told you that I don't need you to agree with how I feel and that I don't see any value in convincing or compelling you to believe what I do? I'm arguing with you because I find homosexuality fascinating, and because there is no better way to truly understand someone's perspective than asking them questions to learn how they will respond. I don't expect you to to try to change my mind, and nor do I expect you to try to change your own mind. It's pretty clear to me that's not what you've been trying to do.

People do seek pleasure, especially me. That's not surprising or inherently bad. But there's usually a reason things are pleasurable. The things people enjoy usually have deeper value to them. My approach may be simple-minded, but so is my goal. I just want to understand you better. Is the reason you are gay (or bi) because you don't believe there is a deeper meaning to the things that humans find pleasurable?