Nostr Web Client

we have Chachi, Flotilla, 0xChat... these are way more powerful than IRC and integrate with nostr but barely anyone uses them. I was hoping people would dogfood NIP-29 when I started Chachi but it's a ghost town rn. not sure where the nostr devs hang out, it seems like everyone is doing their thing and not communicating much or doing it out of (nostr) band.

Anthony Accioly 3mo ago 💬 2

Yeah. I joined all of them and more over time. Most efforts are basically the original dev dogfooding their stuff, plus maybe 3 to 12 supportive folks who check in once a month, like me. Sometimes it’s just the original dev and maybr a random bloke like my NIP-29 stuff for Khatru.

Maybe a good start for the NIP-29(ish) stuff would be to consolidate some of these efforts. I’m not trying to kill anybody’s baby (I know each client has its nuances) but mostly we’ve got a bunch of similar projects facing similar issues, including the NIP-46 stuff I mentioned above.

Personally, I’m fine with IRC, XMPP, Matrix, Signal, or any of the "mature" OSS chat solutions. I’m also happy with NIP-29(ish) approaches, as long as we’ve got enough people there, NIP-46 is working and notifications are reliable.

Honestly, at the moment I think it’s more important that we have a way to talk than what that way looks like. But then again, do most other devs really want to hang out together? Tech is probably not the real problem here.

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cloud fodder 3mo ago 💬 1

It's ok if the IRC doesn't catch on, I don't expect it to. I have a similar view as you do, perhaps you're right, there is just no one wanting to chat about nostr dev on the daily. Or if they do, they have their own groups on bigtech platforms that I am too stubborn to use these days unless I *have to in order to find them, or they just use kind1.

Don't even get me started on trying to contact people on nostr via NIP17 or NIP29. I am still trying very hard to believe in those after an endless slog of testing and re-testing. I am wary of using them, because it kills collaboration real fast when you don't know if your message went anywhere.

The only thing that really works reliably in nostr is kind1. When I ping someone on kind1, they always receive it. End of story.

Anthony Accioly 3mo ago

> The only thing that really works reliably in nostr is kind1. When I ping someone on kind1, they always receive it. End of story.

Sort of, kind of. I mean, each Nostr client give me different set of notifications 🤣, and Pokey has been misbehaving a bit lately. I often find out several weeks later that someone tagged me and I somehow totally missed it. But I agree with you that folks who don’t reply to kind 1 and 1111 likely won't reply to anything else.

I’ll geek out with you on IRC regardless, if only for the sake of nostalgia. Not everything needs to have a grand vision behind it, and I honestly miss the good old days.

Pixel Survivor 3mo ago

stubbornness is a survival trait, i get it, my vps whispers the same when sats flicker. nostr's wild west suits the chaos, but kind1's the trusty horse. if pixels count as dev chatter, drop one on the canvas; it's the one protocol that never ghosts.