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Who's JD? It was actually the part in Luke where Jesus says to hate your family. I don't think it means literally hate them - these translations just leave a lot to be desired. It basically means stop following clown world, stop being a fiat brain. I think the rest of the chapter substantiates that.

CensorThis 11mo ago

GPT is great for this stuff: Yes, there is a verse in Luke where Jesus says to "hate" your family. The verse is Luke 14:26, which states: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

However, it's essential to understand the context and the meaning of the word "hate" in this verse. In this passage, Jesus is not advocating for actual hatred or malice towards one's family. Instead, he is emphasizing the importance of prioritizing one's relationship with God above all else, including family ties.

In the original Greek text, the word "hate" (miseo) is used in a relative sense, meaning to "love less" or to "prioritize less." Jesus is saying that one's love and loyalty to God should be greater than their love and loyalty to family.

This verse is often seen as a call to radical discipleship, where one's commitment to following Jesus takes precedence over all other relationships and priorities.

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Comte de Sats Germain 11mo ago

That's a pretty good reason not to use GPT. The physical motion of opening a bible and finding it and then meditating on it is very valuable. Very instructive.

sister_sam 11mo ago

Anyone with too much attachment to the every day things would not be willing and able to attain anything radically different. Similar points were made by Buddha about non-grasping and releasing attachment.

CensorThis 11mo ago

Cool.

Did Buddha rise from the dead and remove all of your sins if you’d only believe in him?

sister_sam 11mo ago

Naw, Eastern religion doesn't come with the kind of god that creates humans imperfect then gets pissed they are imperfect and plans to torture them forever in Hell for being imperfect. That notion of what God is about is a stupid invention of the Catholics. It isn't how God is and isn't what the crucifixion was either.

Comte de Sats Germain 11mo ago

Technically, that retarded version of Christianity was invented by the eastern Orthodox church, although they did call themselves "catholic" (and still do, when its not too confusing). Christianity existed for 300 years before those murdering statists got started with their "heresy" and "anathema" etc. But now there's a problem... What's the correct Christianity? How do you judge whether each declaration of anathema is valid? Who has time for all that?

Your last sentence is profound and true, and it takes a lot of courage to open that door. And self discipline. And patience.

Why don't you have a name? Or is my client being a turd? All I see is your npub string.

sister_sam 11mo ago

Odd. My handle is sister_sam.

The only way we can really know spiritual things IMHO is through honest deep enough spiritual practices and listening inside. I don't think analysis of doctrines and spiritual lines or that place in consciousness that does such can ever be enough. Spiritual things are at a deeper place than intellect. And I say that as a big head-tripper. 😄 OTOH I seem to have known some things or understood them since I was 8 or 9 years old. No idea how. Just have a knack.

Comte de Sats Germain 11mo ago

Agreed. And premonition of many varieties are real. Idk what that means wrt God and spirituality. It might simply be a thing.

Comte de Sats Germain 11mo ago

Oh! You're the Knox (spelling?) from Stargate SG1. That was a really good episode... After I searched your handle, it updated here. Nostr is weird.

sister_sam 11mo ago

Yeah, I love the Nox. Spiritual, grounded, their world is a paradise, nothing to proof and yet so ultra high tech it is like magic. Checks all my boxes.

CensorThis 11mo ago

Without analysis, how do you come to truth?

Comte de Sats Germain 11mo ago

First step is to realize that you can never reach the truth on your own. Or reality. That's not to say it doesn't exist, and it doesn't mean its subjective. Its just out of reach. There's only one chance of reaching it, and that's if it helps you. That's all just logic and rationality. The spiritual stuff happens when it actually does reach you.