I disagree. de-emphasizing kind 1 would make getting started for newcomers harder. your justification for de-emphasizing kind 1 is essentially devs can’t RTFM and are abusing kind 1 - you think relegating it to a list of a zillion other kinds is going to improve things?
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People shouldnt be forced to start on kind 1. That is bad policy and not very freedom-oriented.
We are going to have a zillion kinds no matter what. That's not a choice.
I think we’re talking past each other. we have different perspectives and I must be poorly articulating mine. but ultimately it doesn’t matter. 🤙
what are you talking about?
nostr itself started on kind1
in fact, nostr kinda IS kind one.
you’re trying to change the whole protocol because you don’t like the content of some kind1 notes? Suggesting kind1 is too confusing?
I really want to understand what you’re saying here because it’s obvious you’re quite brilliant, but I’m missing something. How does the from the text in kind1 takes affect you in any way?
Frknaly, I am not changing anything. Read the PR. I am just changing kind 1 to be optional. It's not really a huge change. The goal is simple: People implement it if they want. I am just opening the way for others apps to come and not feel like they don't belong here.
But yes, kind 1 is also confusing mostly because it so poorly defined. But that's another conversation.
Its interesting... i really want to see what you are seeing, because its obvious youre quite talented.
I want to believe that i am just not getting what you are trying to say.
then i see you say things like this in the same sentence...
"im not changing anything"
"its not a really huge change"
and then an "im just fighting for the outcasts" statement.
you argue like a politician. which makes me think you are either lying to me, or lying to yourself.
but it would seem most everyone is afraid to argue with you in any meaningful way, so ill just state what i am coming away from this with...
your kind one change reminds me of bitcoin side-chains, and seems entirely unnecessary. and i was not convinced that you do not have ulterior motives, which bums me out.
but time reveals all. and if you were right, and i see it, i will thank you and apologize.
but if you undermine nostr for your own sake, and bring harm and inequality to it....
your name will become a proverb.
Well, you are the first to ever call me a politician. Most people think I am way too aggressive to be a politician. And I really don't mind saying things that piss people off, as long as they are true. This PR is just another one of these cases.