It takes quite a big amount of hubris and ignorance to call #monero a shitcoin.

So much of this black and white thinking here.

Try sending 100,000 EUR worth of sats over lightning, let me know how that goes.

Also which wallet are you using? Is the remote note calculating the route (Phoenix does this)? Well then, they know the destination and you have no privacy.

What if your adversary controls enough nodes over the payment path? You got no privacy.

Now, am I saying lightning is useless? Far from it, I use it almost every day, just like #monero.

Each one has better and worse developed sides, some different tradeoffs - lightning UI/UX is generally much better than #monero for example, and transactions feel much faster too, even if you allow for zero-conf on the monero side.

Both are great tools, they have different tradeoffs, and most of the hardcore Bitcoiners I know understand this and respect #monero (and usually also use it themselves).

So you cannot tell me in good conscience that #monero is a shitcoin.

Or I guess you can, but then I'm not gonna take you seriously.