Even it’s in beta test but that’s a great feeling to pioneer #nostr marketplace!

21 comic books were sold via magicwebstore.xyz 🤙 Celebrating with watermelon 🍉 salad and of course #beerstr 🍺

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Avli. Nice. Enjoy. The food is great there.

Yeah cool Greek restaurant! First time here 😎

Love Greek food!

Yeap! It’s not heavy and fresh 😋

It’s awesome. Make sure to get some lamb.

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Congratulations!🥳

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congrats!

yer killin' me withose pix.. is that a Boddington's pub ale??? gotta do Glutenburg myself. (close aproximation actualy).

Avli place near millennium park

That's cool.

I have Question though. How do buyer ensure that seller will actually send the product after paying for it?

It’s P2P ! No escrow ! You basically trust to seller !

Is there a rating system or a way for previous buyer to leave a comment on their experience?

To at least warn the next potential buyer

And also can the buyer/seller contact each other directly via nostr?

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This is the question to the developers who are building the marketplace! I’m just the guy who are testing in real time with the real customers funds !

P.S. I have found the critical bug where I can’t see the buyers delivery information because the relays aren’t stable ! So I have been receiving sats but no info and then I was asking on nostr and all over the telegram groups where the link to the store was shared to find the buyers that could provide me with the shipping details ! It’s brutal but so far I am tracking the orders !

Brutal indeed

There is no rating system or comment-based rating system. It seems very easy to give your store many fake 5 star reviews so I don't want to do that until I understand better how to use a web of trust system to probablistically identify and filter out fake reviews.

There is also not yet any way to dm the store owner through magic webstore. My hope right now is that people link to their store from their website or similar so that if there is a problem the buyer can contact the seller through some method identified elsewhere, e.g. a "contact me" page on their website

Yeah that’s how I did it! Put in the item description warning to contact me on nostr or via email if there are issues with placing the order.

Currently you could use NIP-32 for reviews. But you’re right, there’s currently no web of trust based system in place to filter the good from the bad.

Do you have ideas on how you’d like to do that?

I did a little bit of work on a web of trust system called "web of distrust" which identified people who you or your friends have muted or blocked

Implemented?

I might be able to use a similar system to only show reviews by friends of friends of friends, or something like that

I think something like that is a good place to start.

The main issue is that following or friending someone != trusting someone. Especially when trust is contextual: maybe I trust you to rate movies but not fashion. So perhaps the next step requires the ability to attest: “I trust by amount, with confidence, to rate ” where context would be some category of product.

I'm not sure how to make an interface for that where people would actually use it. I can't imagine going through my friends list and adding a checklist of categories in which I trust them. And I can't imagine anyone would do anything but x out of such a checklist if I displayed it whenever you "follow" someone. So I don't think a checklist of trust categories would actually get used

Figuring out how to make this usable is def a challenge, but it’s one that we desperately need to figure out, at least in my opinion. The value added would be tremendous once it’s all in place.

Shifting from scraped data (which is based on the oftentimes false assumption that follows = trust) to explicit trust claims is one of the humps we need to get over. The question is: how exactly do we do that?

Perhaps for starters: for a marketplace, make a hierarchical list of product categories. Since it’s hierarchical, instead of rating all your contacts in a super granular fashion, which would take forever, you could use large categories. Probably for starters, Alice would say she trusts Bob in “all categories”. She might even just want to port her entire follows list, saying she trusts all her follows for all categories. Of course the point is that that’s not always true, so the next thing she can do is edit the trust ratings, in as granular a fashion as she desires.

To address your point of x’ing out of the checklist: display an option at some point where the user ports the entire follows list into a “trust in all things” list. Make it easy and painless. That’s just to jumpstart the system. When Alice later realizes she doesn’t actually trust Bob in category X, that’s when she discovers she can provide an updated attestation to that effect.

btw I took a quick look at anigma.io and I was wondering how channels work? Are new channels stored as nostr events? If yes, what kind are you using?

Damn B.! Will check it out now.

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I gotta get one of those comic books!

Try it but be careful when you do a check out ! If you see relay error prompts better to reload the the website bedsore to check out and pay invoice !

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😏 I gotcha

Is that magic store link the correct one?

thought you stopped drinking?😢

Yeah I folded 😞