No one is a decent person for decency sake. Lol

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If people have been decent to me, why would I want to be anything but decent to them? If people haven't been decent to me why would I want to emulate that? Decency is basically the only thing compatible with rational self interest.

What do I get out of ruining life for others? Is theft & destruction a fulfilling sort of pursuit? Is killing someone or in some way scarring a person for life not going to haunt me?

I find it a bit concerning when people don't seem to understand that being a good person & doing what is right (even if it's hard) is the path to building self respect & any sort of meaningful sense of satisfaction in life.

Agree with this completely.

You don’t realize that your language and your reference to decency as “good” suggests an ultimate objective good, AKA God.

But if you follow your logic, you're not being decent for decency's sake, your being decent because you see that that is a more beneficial way to live. That's it's practically self-serving to be decent. In other words, you are decent for your own sake.

And you are right, that is the best way to live.

Well, yeah. I don't think there's any such thing as altruism & I think "self sacrifice" is basically always evil. I don't think it's actually accurate to call what Jesus did "self sacrifice." I think Jesus was tortured & killed because he helped people on the wrong day & he refused to accept that as wrong. He refused to give up reality & renounce who he was. It was a refusal to deny the truth & to sacrfice himself & reality to authority, and that is the greatest gift anyone can give people who are being ruled over by tyrants.

That’s a broken mindset.