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It’s important to have a futures market with any contentious fork in Bitcoin.

Why?

Because the party forking gets what is called the “free call option”.

They can tweet, do long monologue videos about how their fork will win, and how no one will oppose them. They can use company resources to legally pressure miners, post populist rhetoric disassociated from reality (pľēb şľőp) and then… wait.

The activation comes, and they are delta neutral on a fork.

If…

No fork happens - they have their bitcoin.

The fork is successful - they have their bitcoin.

A chain split happens - they get Bitcoin on each side of the fork

See the problem? There is an opportunity cost of time and resources coordinating the fork (maybe reputation too), but that’s it! They can antagonize the network at no cost of bitcoin.

It’s worse than that though, everyone who told them they were wrong can’t even dump their hostile fork if they fail to even launch it.

The actual party who has to put up material cost in a fork are the miners. Since they cannot mine on both chains at once, they must choose where to secure coins. The only publicly stated mining pool position on this fork is f2 pool opposing it (~12% of hash rate).

My proposed on chain futures market requires no ecosystem coordination. The Bitcoin is settled automatically, and in the event there is a chain split, each side gets 2 BTC (each party gets the bitcoin they think will “win”).

A futures market forces actors among the Bitcoin network with different opinions to put skin in the game, price the risk, and act. It presents an opportunity to lock up Bitcoin for a time, and profit as a rational actor if they have conviction in their position.

The market will do this independent of your wishes otherwise. Via prediction markets, on chain, or exchange future markets (any exchange could get fees for swapping the fork to buy more bitcoin). We saw futures markets with the last contentious fork in 2017 when bitfinex listed futures.

If no market forms at all, it shows there are not two sides to the market, I’m here as one side of the market, so we know the side that is a no show.

This kind of weakness is death for a fork. If the side forking is unwilling to burn the ships, and put their bitcoin at risk, they are of low conviction and the fork will fail.

There will be a myriad of reasons as to why people who are so vocal and certain that BIP 444 will activate, won’t bet. To be clear, it’s cope.

Their optimal positioning as it relates to the opportunity to wager is:

1. Ignore

2. Public consider the bet, but to never commit.

3. Hand wave any reason to say the market is either immoral, illegitimate, impractical etc.

Any of these maintains the illusion of strength when they are actually weak. A requirement in fork psychology is to appear as if it’s a certainty, because forking is a game of chicken with the network.

A 1:1 ratio implies a 50% chance likelihood to succeed, far lower than they’d have you believe success is.

Additionally, to counter offer with a differnt ratio/odds gives up the game. They blink, show their hand and signal that they think 50% is way to high of a likelihood, and all the bluster comes tumbling down.

I’ve given feedback on the GitHub already from a technical perspective my objections to the BIP, they went largely unaddressed before the GitHub was locked.

Notice who will continue engaging in this content without taking the bet, they are seeking attention because they must consume the discourse as their shred of a hope to win.

Surely, there is already rumbling of restricting how 444 works, already a weakening of their position.

People will say I am wrong, but won’t take the wager.

Makes you think right?

I’ll give 10% of my potential winnings from the contract if you refer a BIP444 proponent into actually making the bet with me.

So whenever you see someone talking about the certainty of this fork activating, link them to this post so we can both make some bitcoin!

Here is a summary of the on chain futures contract:

For anyone who thinks BIP 444 will activate, I will happily offer you an ability to make more bitcoin.

We each deposit 1 BTC into a taproot address with two spending conditions:

1. Time locked so that you can withdraw June 1st next year at a depth of 1 in the tap tree.

2. Time locked so I can withdraw May 1st next year at a depth of 128 in the tap tree.

If BIP444 activates, you get 2 BTC out of the address (because my spend path would be consensus invalid).

If BIP444 does not activate, I get 2BTC out of the address.

DMs are open, we can use a dedicated escrow agent as third key if necessary, would obviously provide auditable code to show there are no tricks.

We can also atomically fund the transaction using a multi input transaction into this taproot address to guarantee all parties fund the address.

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Lol, so the bet starts with an OP_IF coin lol. Literally an invalid input in the BIP. Hilarious.

That’s the point! If the fork activates my spend path is dead. If it doesn’t, I get the bitcoin

Assuming these transactions are done in the same block, the block would be invalid. The coin you bet would never be valid on the new chain. This isn't a bet that would actually pay in the loss case scenario.

Will you share the code/instructions so that others can also challenge #444clowns from their circles?