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In one breath a creative will say "Good artists copy, great artists steal". In the next breath they’ll demonize AI being trained on all the world’s knowledge.

existing sprinkles 4mo ago

I get your sentiment. But in the context of that quote - they mean stealing elements from another artist and incorporating it into their own work. The example that pops into my head is Darren Aronofsky who likes to steal from Satoshi Kon' anime movie Perfect Blue. He heavily used it for Black Swan, and some scenes were also influenced in Requiem for a Dream.

And Christopher Nolan’s Inception is inspired greatly by Satoshi Kon’s Paprika.

Even this is debated if that is ethical or not.

https://iwatchfilmsandstuff.wordpress.com/2019/03/23/why-do-people-keep-copying-satoshi-kon/

So artists are not exempt from this criticism if they rely too heavily on stealing. AI doesn't create anything new, it just mushes together what it has been input into its system. It does this REALLY well and it appears new. But it is not. And it can't ask for permission to borrow or license ideas. So its hard to tell what influenced the AI output and if anyone needs to be credited.

With all that said, I'm not discouraging people from using it. I think it is an effective tool. But I think you should be aware of its shortcomings and also proof its work while adding your own spin to it.

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MikeMonty 4mo ago

It’s hard to imagine anyone not simply regurgitating a combination of things they’ve absorbed over time distilled through their perspective. I see LLMs working similarly. It’s why I made my post. I appreciate your perspective :)

existing sprinkles 4mo ago

Oh yea, for sure. Nothing is original anymore. Every artist has their own influences. Hopefully they are aware of what those influences are. Or it will bite them in the ass later.

But if they don't there are services that actually check to see of you accidentally ripped someone off. I know it is common practice to get scripts legally reviewed before it is actually put into production. https://www.stage32.com/blog/6-things-to-know-about-script-legal-research-3577

Again, this is harder to do with AI because it doesn't disclose where it got its reference from. That is a problem and can bite the person using AI in the ass later. Mid journey can literally sue you for copyright infringement if you get caught. Its a whole mess. That's why I think its important to be conscious of what you are doing and how you are doing it with AI if you want to make money off of it. If its just for fun, then I doubt you'll get sued.

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/users-of-midjourney-text-to-image-site-claim-issues-with-new-update#:~:text=The%20Terms%20of%20Service%20additionally,You%20pay%20our%20legal%20fees