Why would real Bitcoiners who are in it to separate money and state be euphoric about the state - the biggest state to ever exist - stacking bitcoin?

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Bitcoin don’t GAF about the state.

The interesting thing here is that the state now needs Bitcoin.

It’s a semaphore, a harbinger.

Bitcoin Standard is happening in real time.

>”Bitcoin don’t GAF about the state.”

Bitcoiners do though.

Bitcoiners are the network which gives Bitcoin value.

Without them, it’s no different to any other crypto shitcoin.

You lose them, you lose the decentralisation, you lose the security, you lose the value, you’re back to a new version of gold.

The state doesnt need Bitcoin - it needs anything to get itself out from under the mess the state created and Bitcoin just happens to be the easiest and best thing to cling on to.

Bitcoiners don’t need the State - the State needs Bitcoiners to save them from their own shitshow.

We should aspire to more than bailing out the State.

You can at least admit it’s a harbinger of #HBZ?

I could not care less if the state stacked sats, but there will be signs

Don’t assume that all hyperbitcoinisation is equal.

There are paths and scenarios which are very much deadends and bad for Bitcoin.

This idea that everything is good for Bitcoin is naive child’s play pushed by podcasters who want to sell you on a fairytale instead of being realistic about downsides

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What did you think Bitcoin winning meant? For Bitcoin to become the dominant form of money, everyone adopts it, including nation states, corporations, enemies, friends, everybody.

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Not euphoric, just amazed watching the game theory playing out

Many paths, one destination.

Path dependence is a real thing.

Who has control matters.

Why are we accepting fiat politicians continuing their reign when they’ve done nothing but fuck things up for 100+ years?

Do Bitcoiners really think they couldn’t do better?

This is the PM in charge of my country. We had a guy who shat his pants at McDonalds before him and a guy who ate a raw onion on camera before that - you think I couldn’t find a more impressive Bitcoiner than these cunts?

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I’m sure you know all of this…

A) it’s fixed at 21m,

B) it’s infinitely divisible,

C) they’ll never own enough,

D) the network effect outpaces any one holder,

E) governments are inherently short-sighted, they will sell and redistribute the coins at some point,

F) them publicly holding Bitcoin and making a strategic reserve only helps it gain momentum,

G) the worst thing that could happen to Bitcoin, is if people stop talking about Bitcoin

Governments owning Bitcoin is really not a bad thing. We’re still winning!

I didn’t just come up with my ideas 5 minutes ago

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Of course. I get the paranoia, I just think it’s good to have all different opinions out there. I really appreciate that you take the time to discuss these topics.

From my point of view I totally agree Bitcoiners should prepare for state aggression. I also believe Bitcoin was designed with state attacks in mind and that the decentralisation, resilience, and adaptability of Bitcoin will outlast state control tactics.

States were eventually going to come, it’s game theory. The real play is to educate people on privacy, self-custody, and running their own infrastructure. That’s how we win. The more the state pushes the tighter the community will become.

I also believe the individual is more powerful than the collective, that’s why black markets always exist. No state can outmanoeuvre millions of independent actors making free decisions. Bitcoin gives the individual the power to survive outside of their system. It’s so fucking brilliant, we’re just still so early to this.

Keep fighting however you choose! 🙏🧡