A legit question that the first oecumenical council answered 17 centuries ago.
"I and the Father are one."
-John 10:30
Discussion
Just like a wife and husband are one but clearly two different people??
Yeah I’m not buying that. There’s another verse where someone asks Jesus something and he says that only the father above knows. But if they’re one, then he’d have the same knowledge.. The counter argument is that God made Jesus like humans so he doesn’t have the same knowledge and can be more relatable to people. So he’s experiencing the world like a normal human. Except that’s not true since he’s healing people, walking on water, and turning water into wine.
Exactly, why don’t Christians just admit that the trinity makes no sense…
Religion in general doesn’t make sense. It’s all based on faith.
Christianity doesn’t make sense to me tbh. I get the message but the doctrine is confusing. Islam makes the most sense to me out of the religion I’ve read about. one God, worship him. Simple rules to follow. Makes sense.
Again, answered centuries ago. 4th oecumenical council, AFAIK. The Lord has two natures: divine and human.
This is Christianity 101 and there are better places to learn this stuff than Nostr threads.
This is a good place to discuss religion, no need to shut down discussion
I was not planning on having a discussion. My point was that your questions have been answered long ago and I was trying to point you to the answers. Sadly I can't summarize St. Athanasius' "On the Incarnation" or St. John of Damascus' "On the Orthodox Faith" in a note 😃
I asked AI to summarize both and it still doesn’t make sense
No. More like existing together before time and space existed.
It's all in the Nicene Creed.
So Jesus and God are the same entity existing before time and space existed? That doesn’t add up. What does space and time have to do with this?
When Jesus ask for God’s help, is he talking to himself or another entity?
I think the usual formulation of the Trinity is three coeternal persons (hypostases) sharing one divine nature (homoousion).
A good thing to keep in mind is that the Trinity is a mystery that's not fully revealed to us. What are the three's interactions, for example, at the time of Jesus' baptism on the Jordan river? We have the Father talking to the Son and the Holy Spirit descending, but why did they do it like that?
I dunno it doesn’t make sense to me…