Just getting a new npub is easy, rebuilding the reputation is hard part.
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Not with automation. We keep seeing them do this.
Show me one that's new and has a high GrapeRank score in my WoT.
I don't see them, anymore. I only use good relays.
I don't have a high score in your GrapeRank, for what it is worth.
I guess I do too because I don't see them either.
And this makes me curious as to what you don't use or do to have a lower score. Is it zaps? I am seeing people I don't follow in the 90's and upon inspection it looks like some of them at least zap a lot.
I'm one of Nostr's most-prolofic and generous zappers, so nope.
I get blocked and reported a lot, and have effectively stopped gaining followers for a year, or so.
I don't fit in. I'm the spam.
That's wild to me. Why do you get blocked and reported? π‘ Fucking people.
I get reports from Uncle M that im a spam all the time... lol
π₯³β¨οΈ People just want to fuck up those they dont like here. Thats it. Probably same to her... they dont like her honesty and the fact she puts her face where her mouth is. Lol.
Its all games here on nostr.
Yeah, they like to report my selfies as porn, for the lulz. I got blocked and reported as a crypto-scammer, as well, due to a Damus bug, where someone mentioning me in a DM caused someone else to get a DM that seemed to come from me. Took a while for them to fix it, but my DMs were full of people asking what I contacted them about. Took me forever, to figure out what was going on.
Jealousy, probably.
Just use better relays that aren't run by assholes.
A lot of people on here like their women bland and docile, on principle. I do not deliver the requested experience. π
nostr:npub1x458tl7h9xcxa66vr4a8pg0h2qz96pnhwnfpcra0le9090uk5t5qw7armt and some of his little friends muted me, recently, after I said it's unchristian to demand the death penalty for someone being homosexual.
People think I'm getting muted because I did something terrible. No, they do something terrible and I say, Hey, that's terrible! and then they mute me. π€£
My dear I came to conclusion long ago that muted people on Nostr are those you should listen too... We are very low on Bullshit tolerance and we dont suck those nymphs stories... they dont like that we have a strong opinionated 'voice' they cant tame. Everything always comes to the light of a day at least in this existence. They should all buckle up... πβ¨οΈπ€£π₯³βοΈ
The most friction I've experienced on Nostr is after exposing BS. They'll repost my notes and add lies in an attempt to smear me, then claim to mute me. Or, in one case, vauguely threaten to stalk me. I've never check who has muted me, because I really don't care.
Point out lies, or false dichotomies, if you want to lose favor on Nostr. Cheer when the fiat price of bitcoin increases to get zaps. That's our community algo.
Nobody likes their hypocrisy being pointed out. It takes real balls to admit when you were wrong, hadn't thought things through or jumped to conclusions through prejudice.
I didn't realize being muted by someone on nostr has such an effect. I figure it would just be something thaglt one user's client does.
I mute a ton of people.
i think people are afraid to use mute, when in reality, if we're supposed to be in charge of our attention and our feeds, then muting is just an extension of that. muting allows both parties to win and be in control over their experiences.
Yeah, I'm not very biddable myself
What is wild to you? You really don't know what is happening here?
Just asking...
You are not the only one.
Yeah, there's a couple of us. And there are people who attack me personally, and when I defend myself, they mute me. And then their alts also all mute me. π
There was a whole reporting-and-muting swarm that hit me, about a year ago, after I complained about scat-eating porn, snuff porn, rape porn, and personalized porn (using my pics) getting dropped in my replies and sent to my DMs. Completely filled my notifications, for days, which is when I switched to my own theforest relay. Turns out, nobody will pay to send me that stuff. LOL
It was automated, but people I was following were following some of them, and they all followed each other, so I suddenly dropped off the feeds. I think WoT would actually help prevent that, as it detects sudden clusters of new npubs appearing, but I don't think it necessarily is accurate when rating one particular npub.
The same thing happened to me since the "great" programmer The Daniel did that crap with the block/unfollow list, and put me there, even though I never did anything to him. Probably some post offended him and... And there was a period about two years ago when everyone could share lists of blocked people.
You know what I thought about wot yesterday...
The herd effect works perfectly here too.
Here I had the claim to find smarter people, who think for themselves, but I was wrong. There are only a few and they suffer what you suffered, or other things.
There's no point in getting angry anymore. I'm speechless at this moment.
where can I see his graperank?
WoT *is* the message, in whatever way you want to package it: shared cultural cognition or tech. It forms a trap. It might be a necessary trap to deal with opportunists and spammers, or simply, as you say, something that goes back to tribal need. I used to figure I wanted the WoT/reputation. I don't think that anymore. It is something I learned here on Nostr, along with nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqtxwaehxw309anxjmr5v4ezumn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tmwwp6kyvtjw3k8zcmp8pervct409shwdtwx45rxmp4xseryerdx3ehy7f4v3axvet9xsmrjdnxw9jnsuekw9nh2ertwvmkg6n5veen7cnjdaskgcmpwd6r6arjw4jsqgq6lcx8fc7h0p8t4ya9u0a92jnwavqe9rgjwwdw3wjgxfuxsz8rd5mths8c 's memetic circus tricks. A good hack is to just get a new npub and start over with the few people that had any genuine engagement related to priority work. This is especially important if you don't care about Bitcoin or the other cultural attributes that dominate Nostr.
It is easy for me to try too hard. I hope I've learned to back off of this thing called reputation. It is related to identity, and that alone is a huge nasty trap we fall into (and it is monetized). Mostly, what I post as an individual means zero. What I create, how I interact and care IRL matters. Sure, that sounds pat and trite, but I also believe that gets at the WoT issue as well. Create something useful, and people will find you regardless of the WoT of the day/platform.
If I get some free time, I'm thinking that a hybrid between ham radio licenses and CB radio (with channel 9) would be an interesting project. (my x.509/MQTT tunnel/Tower w/ Nostr event objects routing idea). I'm not so sure it addresses WoT any better... haven't investigated that far... I have something to finish, first. I have this intuition there is something there, though.
Anyhoo... Jack's money has been put to great use here, IMO.