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China Morning Missive

For those following the pitched battle over AI, this update out of Meta is so very telling. After first deciding to prioritize an open architecture, it is now looking increasingly likely that the new team will shift to a closed model.

Quote from the linked TechCrunch article sums it all up.

“Top members of Meta’s new Superintelligence Lab discussed pivoting away from the company’s powerful open source AI model, Behemoth, and instead developing a closed model, reports the New York Times.”

The reason for bringing this shift by Meta up is given other developments in the AI space. There’s been yet another open source model released out of China over the weekend – Kimi K2 – released by a group called Moonshot (perfect name!). From the commentary, it would appear as though Kimi K2 has leaned heavily on the DeepSeek model. This! This! And This! The key feature of open source, as we here all know, is that you take what it is that others have created and then make the models perform better.

Competition in it rawest form. Demand and usage will only gravitate to the model that is iterative in the overall development.

American AI platforms are seeking a walled garden and I am old enough to remember how that turned out of America Online (AOL)

Chinese AI platforms see the threat posed by the American closed models and simply made the decision to commoditize the entire industry. Go big. Build strong. Make the American AI models obsolete in short order.

There was evidence of this approach with the launch of DeepSeek. Today, however, the writing is clearly on the wall. So long as the American AI players work within corporate silos, the Chinese are destined to win the global AI race. That fact is now far more evident than ever.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/14/meta-built-its-ai-reputation-on-openness-that-may-be-changing/

Remember when China just used to copy everything? That was called the shanzai model, everyone copied each other, but the part that the West missed was that they didn't just copy; they also made small incremental improvements.

Chinese manufacturers organically discovered and adopted an open source process for hardware development because those who didn't operate in the open got wiped out by the market.

An entire generation of Chinese engineers have grown up an an environment where openly copying and improving and sharing is the norm, and people working in secret is viewed as silly and somewhat suspicious, and doomed to failure.

So when Chinese see OpenAI etc going closed source, it's very confusing to them, because they know this approach is a dead end.

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They’ve learned that the market is not a zero sum game.

And the Americans have forgotten it.

Agree. 👍🏼

And the Chinese have taken past approaches of small improvements on others work and poured jet fuel. The Chinese tech firms are fundamentally changing, at an aggressive speed, the UI and UX of various innovations first made elsewhere.

"Intellectual Property" only serves to bankrupt a society off it's ideas.

Equally, when you look at how no TikTok user has ever even asked what it would mean if the Chinese Communist party is collecting data on them, you know that a superior AI product, even if being used to farm their data by the Chinese government, would happily be chosen by billions of people

Fascinating to watch play out

If I were a pleb living in the US I'd be far more concerned about the US government collecting my data than the Chinese government.

Yeah fair point

And don't forget, they've improved the manufacturing process so much so that in the west we can't build anything entirely in house without relying on china.

Smarter every day tried building a BBQ scrubber entirely in America, not assembled in America but built entirely in America, and found it incredibly challenging, so much so that at the end of the day he didn't achieve the full goal after months. A BBQ scrubber!

Not trying to diminish the product at all, in fact from the looks of it, it's really nice and well worth the price, but if that was hard, the west is absolutely fucked when it comes to hardware, absolutely fucked.