I agree- the left wing canβt debate ideas just tries to silence with violence. Disgusting.
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I wish my fellow leftists were brave enough to be on nostr, but I never saw Charlie Kirk mention nostr either. Weird how you're trying to reframe reality
Left leaning libertarian here. I don't think folks need to die for us to be able to work together. Violence just begets violence and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The problem, outside of the puppet masters pulling their strings, is the fact that a large number of humans don't have empathy.
I respect not wanting bloodshed, but I don't see what you're doing about the Nazis that makes you better than the person that did this
I call that shit out when I see it. I shame them publicly. I make sure anyone that encounters them in my presence knows who they are. I don't tolerate extremism on any side.
Don't try to bully me today, bud. I'm usually the one defending you out here.
I'm not trying to bully you, I'm saying I think the gun is potentially mightier than the pen at this stage of Nazi empire
Well, I can't personally take up arms because I have children to consider, but I am more than willing to help get someone crucified in the court of public opinion if need be.
I don't feel like I can take up arms either, but I'm thankful to people who do it for a good cause
Luigi Mangione is a hero. Whoever killed this Charlie Kirk guy (someone I had never heard of before today if I'm being fully transparent) is a pawn in the government games. Or will be used as such even if they were a legitimate lone actor.
Absolutely true
And after hearing the conflicting reports on whether the shooter is in custody, idk if it was a lone actor. Fuck them if they got paid or given special fed immunity to do this
But if it was a lone actor, I hope they don't get the death penalty for going after a Nazi
I dont use the National Socialist tag all willy-nilly personally. Is there evidence of him belonging to such a group? Like I said, I had never heard of him before today.
He supported the Trump campaign last year, while Trump was openly supporting the genocide in Gaza
That makes him okay with genocide, not necessarily a Nazi. That's still a shitty stance. But like, fuck both sides of the american government aisles? That's still my base stance.
There was a word for people who didn't join the military or anything in Nazi Germany, just chilled being okay with genocide
That word is Nazi
Republicans and Democrats are both modern Nazi party branches in the US
I have no idea what youβre talking about. Iβm not reframing anything. Fanatical leftists are shooting people bc they canβt engage in serious debate. Better to let words fight then actually commit violence but the left canβt make that distinction. This was a cruel, demonic act of cowards who are possessed by forces beyond their understanding.
Fanatical right wingers have done it too. Its not fuckinhg left and right or red and blue. It's the fucking government pitting the people against each other so they can keep raping our kids and robbing us blind. But hey, yeah, let's blame politics and not the politicians.
Blame the actor not some amorphous other. Iβm just saying majority of police violence acts are blue to red. Not my fault libtards are mentally weak and easy to manipulate by politicians.
Like I said, both sides have acted in this manner. Again, you're being blinded by red/blue rage bait.
I am not. Charlie Kirk has not committed any violence. Just preached the word of God and tried to descale the eyes of college-age kids. For that he gets murdered. I think the rage is justified.
There's no proof he hasn't committed violence, but there is proof he has participated in group violence, which is open to debate whether you'd call it "committing" violence
What the fuck is βin group violenceβ? Violence can only be committed by individuals. Fuck off with that nonsense.
I notice how you said "individuals," plural
Did you mean what you said? Plural individuals? Like, a fucking group maybe?
Lmao let me dumb it down: an act of violence can be attributed only to an individual. Not to someone that individual has listened to.
And this connects to the context you're replying to in some way? How?
You brought up Kirk engaged in group violence. That is not a thing.
It's when a group of creatures (in this case people) perpetrate violence together. Try to keep up
Again, that is not a thing. Be specific, what exact act has Kirk done that could be considered violence? If you cannot state that, he has not committed any violence. If youβre claiming heβs a member of a βgroupβ you have to define the members of the group and prove how each of them has committed violence. If you cannot, your claim has no merit.
Group: Nazis
Exact acts: voting, sending dollars, etc.
Am I gonna have to repeat this again?
Lmao have a good day man, I hope you think hard about what youβre attributing to a βgroupβ and how you define them. Make sure itβs not an idea someone else put in your head.
Kids in Gaza are walled in and starving.
Charlie Kirk supported that, with words and also materially with actions.
That's what I call being a Nazi / a member of the Nazi group.
By that definition hamas would also be part of this group. They are walling in and starving (stealing food aid) from civilians. Would they be nazis too?
Any members of Hamas participating in walling in children and starving them are Nazis. Yes.
Unlike the Israeli authorities, I have no evidence that includes many, if any, members of Hamas.
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Weird time to post those emoji you fucking Nazi creep
Now Iβm a nazi? Look at this group definition widening even furtherβ¦ not a problem at all. Re-evaluate your mental models. Make sure itβs not a demonic idea proliferating with your consent.
Humans are the ones with dangerous ideas, not demons.
Anyway, re-evaluating π
We have no evidence the shooter was someone incapable of engaging in serious debate