The #Quran is correct about riba. It is correct when it says that #God will declare war on usurers. We're about to see it. I'm a Christian, and I can see that this is correct.

I just listened to nostr:nprofile1qqsyx708d0a8d2qt3ku75avjz8vshvlx0v3q97ygpnz0tllzqegxrtgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0appv40 talking with Saylor. TBH, it might be better if the big shots aren't thinking about an economy without credit. That will scare them. They won't get it.

But... Bitcoin is going to bring Islamic finance to the world. They won't call it that, that's for sure. Maybe they'll convince Muslims that they've actually adopted Bitcoin finance. But it won't matter - its the same thing.

I really liked Saif's explanation of why the cost of capital should approach zero. I only got a standard Keynesian education, and only undergrad, so I haven't heard that before. It sounds correct to me. Basically, as savings accumulate, you're willing to accept lower and lower yields because you have more and more savings over time - this is imperceptibly gradual, a generational shift. Its the utility curve applied to savings. I'd add that accumulated capital in a country can also count as savings - meaning buildings, machinery, improved land, etc.. The lower yield in that sense is visible in companies pursuing lower yielding operations as well as speciation of niches the economy supports.

Bitcoin's killer feature is immutable scarcity. If the whole world is using #bitcoin, and there's bitcoin loans that can't be repaid, well, too bad. The lender is shit outta luck. The borrower also has the option to abscond, if they think they can get away with it. Oops, shit outta luck. So, in the short run, the cost of capital is going to be high. Too high. In the long run, countries that continue the debt-yield model are going to find themselves with no money. Then you get the bad kind of anarchy, which maybe might turn into the good anarchy. No anarchy is good for governments.

There's a fork in the road in front of us. If we take the left path, the path of credit, we get the Mark of the Beast (again - not the first time). It won't matter if we dodge the CBDCs. Why? Because borrowers won't be trusted, and some mechanism will be required to basically enslave them. Probably everybody. Could be government registered wallets that interface with tracking implants. Maybe some other arrangement. They'll hermetically seal the bitcoin into the country via surveillance and checkpoints. Not good... Probably the beginning of humanity's extinction.

The right hand path is Islamic finance. That sounds scary, but it really just means that people have an alternative to debt. Instead of borrowing 5k sats to "buy" a car, your rich uncle buys the car and leases it to you, with the car as collateral. The lease might not be periodic payments, but simply a payment at a future date, for a different amount than you bought - the market will have to determine how amortization affects the return payment. This is really very simple - much simpler than our current system of monthly payments for three times as long as the car retains any value. Instead of enslaving the human, as in the path of credit, the material possession is enslaved as collateral. The bitcoin gets to flow freely, and no surveillance is required.

I expect both paths to be tried simultaneously. Countries that try to replicate credit on bitcoin will not survive. The Quran says that God will declare war on them, and I can't remember if it also says society will go insane or if that was an interpretation by a scholar, but we can already see that happening. Its a good thing God is merciful - we do have a chance, if we repent and actually understand. If you think none of this matters because its not from the Bible, think again. The Bible constantly compares sin with debt with interest, starting from Genesis, if you read it in Hebrew, or Greek in the NT. Our English versions have been edited. Go to a synagogue and ask, if you have the balls. Being a real Christian takes work. What, you thought it was gonna be easy? I'm not your pastor, I get no financial gain from telling you sweet nothings.

Here's the discussion between Saif and Saylor. And thanks nostr:nprofile1qqs9336p4f3sctdrtft2wlqaq5upjz9azpgylhfd3dplwf005mfrr9spzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuendwsh8w6t69e3xj7spz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kueg6g89xw for causing me to listen to this.

https://youtu.be/k7XhzXMSAPo?feature=shared

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Very well said!

It saddens me to see the people of faith disputing each other when they should be working together against the greater enemy. Far more unites our hearts under God than divides us by wickedness. May God be the judge of each person.

I strongly believe that the time of "my faith is better than yours" dick swinging contests serves "satan" far more than God!

Good people worldwide need to be united against the common enemy of our era: technocratic totalitarianism and the enchroaching mark of the beast.

FOSS/FOSH technology will be the Noah's Ark of our age, I pray that this time more than 8 people step on board, because the animals through their innocence are already spared from this flood of control and surveillance, and this ark has room for everyone. The choice is yours.

Godwilling,

إن شاء الله

, אִם יְרצֵה הַשֵׁם

God forgive me if i'm wrong.

#Godstr #Hope #Bitcoin #FOSS #FOSH

Idk, I'm suspicious of unity. I think people have a right to be different and the degree of difference is up to them. But yeah, the real enemy isn't each other - its Satan/sin.

Honestly, one can try to walk around or soften it all he wants, but eventually every single one, who thinks that profiting while not working (or working on products that only smb else is supposed to consume, not you) while others work on stuff you use is acceptable, will have to get physically extinct. If I was one of them, I would choose not to have children and would hope to have enough time to die naturally.

Look Ma, no hands!

“Instead of borrowing 5k sats to "buy" a car, your rich uncle buys the car and leases it to you, with the car as collateral. The lease might not be periodic payments, but simply a payment at a future date, for a different amount than you bought”

How is this better?

Its better for the whole system because the car loan didn't entail an increase in the money supply. When you get a loan from a bank, they don't use money that's saved in the bank - they create new money. In the past, banks were required by law to have a reserve ratio - 10% a long time ago, 5% more recently, 0% during covid and maybe still (I out to check that) - that meant, for example at a 5% reserve, they could loan out 20x total deposits at the bank. But it was never loaning that money - it was always creating new money, so the amount of money in the world would increase.

That money then goes through you to the car seller, and they deposit it in their own bank, and that allows more money creation.

So there are a few effects from this... One is, there's a class of people who get free money. Another is, all debt reduces in real value over time, because prices rise if the money supply grows faster than population (its more complicated than population, but I'm not satisfied with saying GDP there instead, so I'm keeping it simple). And another is that debt grows faster than equity - so you should eventually get a society where only debt exists. And another is, no prices in this credit economy can ever accurately reflect the true equilibrium price at any moment.

Bitcoin fixes this whole shitshow. Its a bearer asset. You got it or you don't.

Maybe a dude buying a car doesn't notice the difference, but the difference is **_enormous_** - a bitcoin economy is so much more efficient than this, that I bet we get superpowers and open portals and Terraform Mars within a decade of going fully bitcoin.

Also how did you find this? This is from last year...

Don’t know, showed up in my feed. Wasn’t paying attention to the date.

I am questioning the need for a rich uncle and the leasing from him rather than owning it myself. That is worse in my mind.

You're going to be the rich uncle.

I still don’t want a bunch of nieces and nephews looking for a car loan from me. 😬

Then tell them to get jobs

They will have to because I am not a bank!