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UX problems with base layer payments include:

- Mining fees are sometimes high

- Confirmations usually take several minutes

- Using it privately requires running a coinjoin server

UX problems with lightning payments include:

- Setup fees are sometimes high

- Payments frequently fail

- Payments aren't asynchronous (the recipient has to stand there with their device open waiting to do a revoke_and_ack on their old state -- unless they use a custodian)

- Payments that *do* succeed occasionally take more than 30 seconds (due to stuck payments, automatic retries, and no ability to say "stop retrying" in any existing wallets that I'm aware of)

- Using it privately requires manual channel management

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ShiShi21m 10mo ago

Using Bitcoin privately does not require CJ.

The most common misnomer ever.

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Super Testnet 10mo ago

I said that under the "base layer payments" section

Do you now an alternative way to use bitcoin privately on the base layer? If so, what is it?

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Rand 10mo ago

p2p

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ShiShi21m 10mo ago

Bitcoin not tied to your identity sent using a machine not tied to your identity.

Perfect privacy.

Why is this a hard concept to grasp?

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