Also, the Darkness of money depends on how big is the crowd you are hiding in.

And you cannot have a big crowd unless the money is the hardest.

Some people argue that saving in bitcoin and spending Monero gives you the best of both worlds, but I think that's BS.

Whenever you exchange Bitcoin for Monero, you decrease your privacy because the crowd you are hiding in is even smaller.

Lightning is the way to spend Bitcoin.

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Agree that the crowd is important.

The mistake I then see Bitcoiners make is to imply all Bitcoin is their anon set. This is not true. Only a tiny fraction of Bitcoiners buy no-KYC and also coinjoin. This is optional, expensive, slow, and tedious. Introduces a lot of friction so no one does it which naturally reduces ur anon set.

You can essentially multiply every transaction that happens on Monero by 16 (1 true spend + 15 decoys that come from real transations that occured). All done by default. And your anon set grows over time with no involvement from you as your outputs are automatically chosen for other decoys.

Also consider that UTXOs don't exist on Monero, only TXOs. It is never known whether an output was spent. But that is known on Bitcoin. So every spend on Bitcoin reduces anon set of a coinjoin over time.

If you think Moneros anon set is small, it doesn't make sense to then say spend on lightning (tiny fraction of usage and liquidity than Monero)

Since you enjoy Giacomo you might like this 3 part critique of Monero.

The good, the bad, and the ugly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PRKKlI-Jo