Yeah, this is more of an issue with how I'm handling view calculations. I believe that some people are now advocating for view counts to removed from nip-71 entierly
Might be a problem with their analytics because I know there should be a few views on mine because I've watched from multiple IPs and seen someone else watch it live to test something. Still 0 views. nostr:npub1zach44xjpc4yyhx6pgse2cj2pf98838kja03dv2e8ly8lfr094vqvm5dy5
I think social feedback within the #Nostr environment is *deeply* ignored and undervalued. People want to jsut kinda beat their chest about "not caring about views or follows" or whatever, without realizing that they and everyone else uses it as a fundamental, first line filter for content. And it's not like "some people are above this," to the contrary its foolish not too. There is so much crap out there, that regardless of the trade offs of doing so, navigating content without that filter is an absurd proposition. It's very much like reviews - the overwhelming majority of people simply do not even entertain products with a 2 star review. People simply don't have the time to have simple filters taken away from them.
In that context, I get that stuff doesn't update sometimes, pulling that information might be difficult in certain circumstances, etc. But that sort of data NEEDs to be prioritized or you will never keep creators in this ecosystem. They want to know people are seeing their stuff, or they will leave and wonder why they wasted so much time trying.
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I think that’s a terrible idea honestly. Acting like social engagement information is some sort of enemy or something to be afraid of is only shooting ourselves in the foot, imo.
I just think that information should be weighed properly based on your social graph and trust metrics. Not thrown out.
It would be the equivalent, imo, to inviting people to a party but where you couldn’t see whether people were listening to anything you were saying, then when people start leaving because there’s no social reward for being there, the party hosts get mad that everyone is too shallow needing social feedback to know people are listening.
Maybe this isn’t the reason and I’m just assuming based on other conversations. But a lot of people worry about things around Nostr, and my big worry has always been that a lot of Nostr people seem to be bitter about the foundations of social protocols themselves. If people don’t realize that follow counts, views, likes, zaps, all of this public show of attention is a fundamental, evolutionary level part of what makes social networks enticing to so many, then we will be stuck forever as a “could have been” underdog.
Don’t mean to harp on this, but it’s been nagging me for a while and think it’s a big issue and I don’t think a lot of people here realize it. Ignoring it hurts #Nostr, imo. We should be *fixing* its problems, not pretending we aren’t social animals.
I agree. I wish I was a dev so I could help out, tho the devs currently are doing a lot of good work for sure. Much appreciated. I do hope Nostr succeeds