Clever like China? China has invaded every one of its land neighbours at some point post-WW2, and has spent most of the 2000s seizing reefs and islets from its maritime neighbours.
Koreans and Japanese despise them. Filipinos and Vietnamese hate them. Russians and Central Asians merely mistrust them.
Chinese diplomacy was an epic fail even before the "Wolf Warrior" episode. They have far more to learn from Russia than the reverse...
China don't have any clear war open against a country, they do it in a "clean" way crushing any resistance (i am not saying it is a good thing, but it is their strategy).
Could you said the same about Russia ?
West european now hate russians.
Middle european country despise them.
So what do you think it would happen when these both "powerful" countries (Russia and China) will have no more land to expand ?
They will stay friend ? 🤣
That's why i said it is just an history repeating. Not because the countries are the same. But the behaviors are the same.
Erm, no way dude.
China's way of war is incredibly destructive.
Combined with their poor logistics last century, they killed hundreds of thousands of neighbours for trifling territorial gains - two river islands they failed to hold against the USSR in 1981 (Putin then ceded those in the 2000s), 40% of a Korean mountain in '53, the cratered ruins of one Vietnamese village in 1981. Admittedly the seizure of the (Vietnamese) Paracel Islands in '75 was a better prize. Scarborough Shoal in PH right now is of minimal value, mostly fishing rights.
Agree re Russia, total disagree re China.
In the West, our educators run interference for the CCP for free, and our leaders for favours, but in East Asia people will tell you what they think.
Don't misunderstand me.
I didn't say the way China was not destructive.
I said they have done it a way less "visible", they invade lands without a lot of resistance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_battles_involving_China
Russia action is a lot more visible and ukraine is the big visible shoot they have made.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia
Do you see an "Ongoing" war in the China page ?
That's that interference I was talking about.
Since 1981, when Ronald Reagan threatened to nuke the USSR if they nuked China, Western diplomatic and media doctrine has been to cover for China, in the hope of reciprocity and favours.
What China does is not secret, but Wikipedia dares not speak the words.
Chinese marines and warships occupy a good chunk of the Philippines' EEZ and minor islets.
Right now.
These days, they fire warning shots at Filipino fishermen who come too close to the stolen territory, instead of just killing them without warning. That's an improvement. Maybe the current Chinese officers trained in Russia :D
"instead of just killing them without warning" you mean civilian were warn just before they were killed ?
i am really not saying russia or china is the best.
They are both evil to me whatever the war they are making.
They kill privacy of their peoples, no freedom, no liberty, they are only used as fuel for their leaders power.
Agree, 100%
And this is also true of Australia, the USA and many nations in the EU.
Same evil, just different levels of power and excuse-making.
The world and power should be a lot more decentralized.
It is concentration that make all these few leaders so powerful from any countries they are.
And victims are not the one who engaged theses useless wars.
It would be better a world when leader fight themselves for their power, in a boxing ring for example.
Like some did in ancient time, when the leader had his head cut or was captured then the war stop.
Nowadays they are over protected and never had to assume the consequence of their decisions, this would have to change if we want to live in a more peaceful world.
Thanks for this exchange of point of view.
#thinkstr
