Wasn't trying to be contentious 😂
Let me try and properly articulate this...
Putting aside how one defines "tracing" for now to get to the actual root of the argument...I think Super Testnet is correct about LN receiver privacy being better within a very narrow set of conditions.
I trust Super Testnet and a small subset to use Lightning in the very private way he usually describes, but in it's current state I don't think most Lightning users attain the same level of receiver privacy.
I cannot imagine when anyone ever needs to be able to send money without knowing if it reaches the correct place in the network
What am I missing here?
When you make a payment the hash of the preimage would match the payment hash in the invoice. The receiver has to reveal it to the sender in order for the payment to go through. The sender uses that to cryptographically prove they paid.
I would be more interested in comparing an eventual Monero L2 to a Bitcoin L2. In terms of privacy, building an L2 on an encrypted blockchain is probably the best privacy you can get in the cryptocurrency world. I think Shielded CSV or a folding scheme on Monero (which I've seen discussed in Monero here and there) would be the most feasible and private L2 possible afaict. Crazy times ahead for privacy tech 🤙
L2 just sabotages the underlying coin if it's anything like lightning
The only L2 worth having would be one based on a P2P blockchain like the underlying asset
Lightning is only one of many different kinds of L2s. No one is forced to use them and they come with different advantages.
Ironically Lightning would probably work better on Monero in a few ways because of it's dynamic blocksize and would be more economically feasible to unilaterally exit because of it's very cheap fees. Although I'm more interested in the other L2s I mentioned.
Weird, touch screen glitched and sent 2 reactions other than 🤙 before I could react with 🤙
Anyway, I doubt any L2 based on anything but a similar blockchain would work, and Monero doesn't need an L2 currently since transactions are already fast enough and cheap enough and the main obstacle to Monero's privacy/security right now is the prevalence of devices having backdoors
