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This is why Agile software development is a thing. It's saying "we'll get there when we get there, because we're doing it right." Deadlines are antithetical to Agile.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

the hardest thing with deadlines and dev is that architecture is hard to measure without years of experience at actually implementing feature sets

very often marketing is in charge of feature sets and architects rapidly turn grey and drop dead of heart attacks by deadline

that is, if the architects are actually qualified, and IMO, software architects can only be called qualified after 10 years working as an engineer

there is no magic trick learning how to spec out a project without getting into overruns and quality problems due to deadlines and unrealistic expectations of management

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Laeserin 1y ago

Well, that's why architect is a real job. 🤷‍♀️

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

yeah but most of them are like 3 years CS and 2 years writing waffly documents and get hired to direct work they don't understand

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

for real, i've seen this at a shitcoin job, the "architect" was really a marketing guy in disguise

Laeserin 1y ago

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

i'm getting close to being able to do it now, but i've been working mostly full time since 2018

nothing like failing to build the features you thought you could build to teach you prudence in architecture...

where building architects must learn to work with material and space, software it's about time and brains

Laeserin 1y ago

It's like Product Owner and Business Analyst. Real roles that require competent, talented, experienced technicians, but usually end up filled with business people.

⛩oizen 1y ago

GM! 🐸 🥕 :beetroot:

MichaelJ 1y ago

We've got that at my day job right now. The deadline is artificially imposed by the big trade show, the research and product teams take their time in figuring out what they want to debut at the trade show, they ask the devs to do it, the devs say "there's not enough time before the trade show," and chaos ensues. 😅

Hazey 1y ago

Demo Mode™

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

yeah, my most recent "release" was that

i already knew by that point it couldn't stand up to 24 hours running, but perfectly fine and great without many users on it