Onchain (bitcoin)

Bitcoin Lightning (solves speed issue)

Lightning Nuts / ecash (solves privacy issue)

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Thank you for correctly explaining why I think like I do.

Only one of those happens on chain. Bitcoin!

Through the loop and back on chain = private coins? You complain about a problem and you refuse to use the solution...Might as well sell me your sats and go buy XMR.

I did not complain about n e thing.

I simply stated my opinion.

Nor have I said I haven’t/won’t used them.

Why jump though so many hoops (L2,L3,etc) when the main chain should take care of these issue.

Like you said Monero can do this but Bitcoin itself can’t.