I don’t directly relate either one of those two to being directly bitcoin(same with liquid).

Although they do help.

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Onchain (bitcoin)

Bitcoin Lightning (solves speed issue)

Lightning Nuts / ecash (solves privacy issue)

Thank you for correctly explaining why I think like I do.

Only one of those happens on chain. Bitcoin!

Through the loop and back on chain = private coins? You complain about a problem and you refuse to use the solution...Might as well sell me your sats and go buy XMR.

I did not complain about n e thing.

I simply stated my opinion.

Nor have I said I haven’t/won’t used them.

Why jump though so many hoops (L2,L3,etc) when the main chain should take care of these issue.

Like you said Monero can do this but Bitcoin itself can’t.

Maybe it’s best that way. Think about it …

Layers.

Imagine if bullet proof glass didn't have LAYERS...

Toilet paper has layers, what’s your point?

Shit can still get on your fingers.

If you don’t get it, I don’t have time to explain. 😂

Trust me I get it

If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to convince you -

Satoshi Nakamoto