not so awesome after all.. ..virtual machines in virt-manager (QEMU/KVM) randomly cause the whole [host] system to freeze, then about 30 seconds later shut down the system.. ..i'm not gonna waste my Saturday with this..

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Bummer. I've never run into that on my Framework AMD.

yeah, very disappointing.. ..maybe i need newer hardware with Arch

I'm guessing you have, but just in case, you looked here?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/QEMU

Anything apparent via journalctl?

nothing i could see, it looked like all the virtio binaries and other required binaries were installed and systemd services were running.. ..i even tried using the Arch LTS kernel

i don't use GPU passthrough, i've always used the virtio GPU within virt-manager.. ..thanks for the Claude feedback though, i will try this experiment on a different machine at some point, for now i just reinstalled Debian so i can use my main workstation in a stable state

what is your goal ?

i finally figured out the issue, all systems are a GO now

i just thought of something.. ..this works on a mini test PC just fine.. ..maybe i just need to update the firmware on my motherboard and try again

We need you, sir. 🫡