Say tomorrow we had one or more nostr apps that solved the tooling problem for rolling out your own community (e.g. Christian, parenting, farmers etc.) over nostr.
Community champions can figure it out.
What invite and onboarding flow do you see working for non-technical new to nostr community members?
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An invite link with a number of semi automatic downloads, amber, citrine, client simultaneously
If I have to explain what citrine and amber are, and how to install multiple apps it’s an uphill battle already.
Nothing against these apps, or this app combo.
The measurement of success will be people who drop off during onboarding. This number should go down.
Amber is not on the Play Store, deal-breaker with the target audience as described.
This is an excellent question. I want to start a Nostr community and I thought about it.
Here are a list of challenge:
1. Need to install a new app. No one likes to have "yet another messaging app"
2. Managing signing keys. For non techies this is an issue. We need a solution that a person can get his signing keys using email.
3. Opaque relay management. Each community night have it's private relay. Non techies do not want to know about this. Which brings us to
4. One click onboarding. A new member needs to be able to join a community by clicking on one url.
5. Recommended clients. I love the fact that there are many clients. A non techie will get lost with choices
💯 people are so used to email as auth that fighting it at this point feels counterproductive. Trying to explain you don’t have a password, you have a private key, but it’s like a password, but you can’t change it, or reset it, or lose it.
Maybe we focus on bridging legacy oAuth with keys and just riding the semi-custodial rails for now. What’s the Venn diagram of Christians or Farmers and people who understand the importance of open internet standards?
A community needs quality content first, nobody arrives for the protocol (unless the community focus is the protocol - IE current nostr active users) Hardcore nostr folks who understand identity get frustrated and think everyone would just get it if you explain it properly, but the reality is very few will even listen. Do it for them, and then offer it up later should they need it.
Also, to pre-empt any “your key is not your identity” comments. Without a key, it’s just anonymous json. The entire concept of portability dissolves without the identifier. Nostr is an identity system with a collection of semi-documented schemas.
Dome sites don’t even have passwords, they just email a pin every time you log in.
My issue is with Authenticator apps: I want standalone hardware for this, not a phone with some centralised company holding my 2FAs.
The email + pin thing is a surprisingly useful pattern. Damus adopted a form of it for their website login which is cool. Pushing it further, wonder if the key could be sharded across a collective of providers and you never even see it. It’s just out there.
RE: 2FA… different topic but if you are on iOS the 2FAS app is very nice and clean, open source, and you can store backups in your iCloud account. Not perfect, but better. Been moving off Authy.
nostr:npub1kasmxhs5mln74klwkuttc3ae5tquwqaja6vz0j4yzkjw8d49pnrqm0ttwe if you don’t mind sharing - what community do you have in mind?
Can you confirm which nostr app(s) and operating system(s) you use for nostr?
I am looking to line up a few early community champion testers
We have a (very small) community who are trying to identify post modernism influences in schools in Israel.
Currently it's basically a WhatsApp group. Which is very limiting. The people there are non techies. Mostly teachers. I didn't even approach them with the idea to move to a different platform because it needs to be super simple for it to work.
I am not sure that early adoption is something that will work with them. But I can try.
I use Amethyst on Android and a few web clients on my desktop. Which is Linux.
I am developing a blogging system based on Nostr...
Areas or people at events who are good at onboarding. Pastor Jims, or Farmer Jims or whatever.
There isn't a tech solution for non tech people.
The community champion will be available to assist with onboarding
A client that bootstraps in the community relay, and stays in the community relay without having to follow 12 steps to set it up. Should literally be: user copy the wss://examplerelay.name into first field upon opening app, then they.name nsec / sign in from amber, then they are in that relay and not exposed to all the other communities on nostr.
Like im thinking keychat where it serves as a signer for mini apps, but you are silo'd in your community relay by design.
All 500 or so nostr:nprofile1qqsra2ey033mkdwl5w8q0jss9ak69zafh82xsuvhwsaauw3trkq2amgpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgcwaehxw309anxjmr5v4ezumn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tck28qzu Communities need to be lit up.
Nstart.me ist a good option and you can preconfigure IT via URL addendums, for exclude Bunkers etc.
I Like the step, whrre you can only progress when having downloaded your keypair and the optional mail receival.
And at the end you can set an Account to be followed, including its followees used as a list to start Up a community.
