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Go ahead and hard fork then if you are so sure, the Bcashers were sure they were right too. In the meantime you've got Knots to run if you want.

Z4 Explorer 3mo ago 💬 3

I'm asking knots to do the hard fork! 🙏

I am running knots. I support knots nodes. But unless every bitcoin core node converts to knots (or every core node does not upgrade) then eventually the csam will find an updated core node and be inscribed onto the bitcoin block chain.

The hard fork is an insurance policy. If the worst happens and csam flood the bitcoin network and governments all over the world make it illegal to run nodes because of csam and people shit themselves and don't want to run nodes because they don't want csam on their hard drives, then the forked version is there without the csam. And we can switch to the bitcoin chain without the the csam.

Having the hard forked version might be enough for government to not get so heavy handed, because they will be aware that people can switch to the hard forked version hence, the hard forked version could fail, but its mere presence helps the existing bitcoin to continue, because the governments realise its futile being so heavy handed, because everyone will switch to the hard forked version anyway.

Or another scenario is just the threat of a hard fork could push bitcoin core to sort its act out. And pull the plug on removing the anti- spam filters. Problem solved.

The hard fork could be a spectacular failure and existing bitcoin flourishes. Thats a success in my eyes. I just want Bitcoin to succeed fully whether with a hard fork or not.

I dont want a hard fork. But Bitcoin core aren't leaving us with much choice. In an ideal world I would prefer the existing bitcoin flourishes even with csam, enough people look through / beyond the csam on the block chain and see bitcoin for what it is. Bitcoin is freedom. Imo no amount of csam changes this. But we are dealing with people here.

Keep Bitcoin Alive 🧡

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ChipButty 3mo ago

Lol! You obviously weren't around in 2017 for the hard fork (you probably haven't even done a full 4yr cycle yet). Luke isn't going to do a hard fork but you can ask him all you want.

Z4 Explorer 3mo ago 💬 2

Yes he already replied to me on X, 20% knots on bitcoin network isn't enough for a hard fork. Plus he said hard fork isn't the optimal way to combat this problem.

ChipButty 3mo ago

Yeah of course because it would be as catastrophic for Knots as the hard fork in 2017 was for Bcash. The miners aren't going to switch to Knots. The only people shouting about this are all the gullible/naive followers of the dumb f*ck Kratter & a few others. Oh well, enjoy your day.

Z4 Explorer 3mo ago 💬 2

Yeah I did realise the fallout of a hard fork isn't straight forward. The community gets divided and not easy to pull off.

I do hope core get their act together. Surely the rise of knots from 1% to 20% and the fact that a good % of core node runners don't upgrade their node, hopefully this should send a strong message to push core to reassess their approach. We can only hope no lasting damage is created in the interim. 🤞

ChipButty 3mo ago

Have you wondered why Saylor hasn't weighed in on this? He has a lot at stake, right? He hasn't talked about this at all, so obviously he isn't very concerned. What about other big names in the space like Lyn Alden & Matt Odell who say the spam arguments brought up by Knots are way overblown?

Z4 Explorer 3mo ago

I hope they are right. Its wrong to assume its not an issue just because the big names don't think so.

Will you be updating your core node next month? Or do you run a knots node?

Z4 Explorer 3mo ago 💬 1

Hopefully core pull the plug on the removing the op_return filter next month. They can see the bitcoin community isn't supporting them. Most core node runners have told me they won't be updating their core node next month, so even the core supporters don't support this.

If core don't take action, and pay attention to what the community is telling them, then over time they become irrelevant.

Not sure where we'd be if it wasn't for Luke and Knots. 💪

ChipButty 3mo ago

Well it's nice that you trust Luke. You know he had over 200 bitcoin stolen a couple if years ago, right? He kept them on a laptop & someone got his pgp keys and took the bitcoin. Not only that but because the thief had Luke's pgp keys Luke had to send out a warning for people not to download or update Knots. Anyway I'm sure Knots is perfectly safe these days 👍