Nostr Web Client

It's funny to see how non-Amethyst users react to our "complicated" relay settings. They think users are stupid and can't figure it out.

We are now a few days in and I am very proud of how our actual users reacted to it. Our UI being quite rudimentary for relay selections but that didn't scare anyone. People asked questions, changed things, and generally kept going.

There was a chance Amethyst Outbox would crash and burn. But it didn't. People are not stupid. You give them the tools, they will figure it out.

Empowering users is a hard thing to do. But it is way better than letting an app hide things from them so much that they don't even know where their content is.

As we move forward, those tools will get better and better.

unknown 3mo ago 💬 1

I do software sales and software testing along with some UI/UX. Perhaps your audience is not meant to be normal users. But you definitely need to be a strong Nostr user to remotely understand what is happening.

It’s really complicated for normal users. Far too many settings and options. You shouldn’t have to learn about this stuff just to install and use an app.

But benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you’re only looking to serve power users.

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Vitor Pamplona 3mo ago 💬 2

It's better than what it was before on a non-outbox client, where users need to constantly check the relays their follows are using and update their lists accordily. In this one, it is set and forget. Just make sure your posts are there. The app does the rest.

unknown 3mo ago

Wow. Ok. If you’re hopping to onboard “normal” users. keep pushing for seamless startup experience. We as experienced users (and devs) understand the importance of relays. But new users should not have to understand what they are the first time they open a Nostr app. Most normal people aren’t going to want to learn. They just want their app to work. That’s what it is going to take for more adoption. Barriers to entry just means people will get frustrated and leave.

All this is intended to be constructive. You’ve built a ton of functionality, but it isn’t as easy as you make it sound. Remember not everyone has your life experience.

Vitor Pamplona 3mo ago 💬 1

Makes sense. But if they don't understand which relays are hosting their content, there is absolutely no point on nostr. If they come to nostr just to use default servers of an app, that is not any different from a Twitter or Facebook. You only get any freedom if you control your posts, where they are. Otherwise, we didn't change anything. We can obviously hide these things away, but then we are not doing anything new here.

It's like using Bitcoin with custodial wallets. It's not that different from regular fiat.

unknown 3mo ago

I agree. But I think we can do like a Crawl. Walk. Run. Approach. Not everyone needs to know everything immediately.

I didn’t learn multi-sig wallets with mini-script restrictions first.

I learn how to buy. Then send to a hot wallet. Then how to generate cold wallets etc.

We need to build a path to sovereignty.