For sure, a longer process, but listening 17 years to the No Agenda podcast with nostr:nprofile1qqsgs0l2fsr3lkjyqmftv6lzrjc7mt6950s9spgdvgq7euwnt94mcwgppamhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwgq3yamnwvaz7tm0venxx6rpd9hzuur4vg2srcx3 and John C Dvorak definitely accelerated it :)