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Hey nostr:npub1v5k43t905yz6lpr4crlgq2d99e7ahsehk27eex9mz7s3rhzvmesqum8rd9 !

While listening to some of your recent podcasts I've encountered a contradiction in the following three Bitcoin narratives that I can't solve by myself right now. At least it seems contradicting to me 😅

I'd be glad if you could help me out or guide me to an article where you've written about it:

#1 Fiat society has begun to abuse houses as store of value, so the price of real estate has grown disproportionally compared to wages and so the price doesn't anymore reflect the true usecase of houses: living inside of a warm place.

#2 The cost of houses has not been going up over the last decades if you adjust for inflation.

#3 In our parents' generation it's been possible to save money and buy a house on credit for a single wage family.

So where's the misconception here? Or am I mixing things up?

Is #3 just a fairytale made up to orange pill people? Or is #1 maybe not a new phenomenon but has been the case since modern fiat money exists? I hope you understand

Leon 2y ago

I hope I will be able to explain. I don't think you are mixing things up. #1 is true and #3 was true. RE has been used mainly as a SOV since 1971 (Nixxon Shock, introduction of a fiat based system).

Even though inflation was considerably high in the 70's, RE was still priced on its utility value and was thus affordable for our parents' generation. People then excessively invested in RE, which by now has become overpriced and unaffordable. This was a process of lets say 40-50 years ... I hope that clears up the confusion ?

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d0enakalle🐇⚡ 2y ago

Okay, thanks for your answer!

But how to deal with #2 now? If you say #1 and #3 are correct, how can RE prices of today be the same as back then if we adjust for inflation?

Shouldn't #3 be wrong then? Without a relative increase in price there shouldn't be more problems for a family to buy a home today than back then.

OR is #3 still true because we need a #4:

#4 In comparison to inflation family wages have continuously fallen since 1971.

Is 4 true at all? Maybe I should visit wtfhappenedin1971.com once more... 😅

d0enakalle🐇⚡ 2y ago

Or maybe I should say "wages haven't been rising as much as inflation"... ?

Leon 2y ago

#4 is true in the sense of: wages have not risen as much as the amount of money in supply. Since a lot of the money being introduced I to the economy finds its way I to real estate through loans, RE has risen almost on par with inflation. Makes sense ?

d0enakalle🐇⚡ 2y ago

Yes, now it does.

I think my confusion also came from this article I remembered reading last year.

What do you think about this article? It makes everything kinda complicated, as it introduces some side topics. I guess it's also hard to find clear answers concerning RE when prices can be so different from region to region...

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https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/verbraucher/immobilien-kosten-generationen-100.html