It’s the left that believes those things. Not liberals
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It's actually neither... Lol
Who is the “left” your are talking about here? If you mean AOC you are ridiculously wrong
You are obviously not in tune with what the modern "left" thinks...
You didn’t answer my question 😂
AOC is the left. Establishment Democrats are the left.
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What do they do that is “left”?
Are you not aware of how this spectrum works? They all are stomach proponents of socialism. That's to the left of center. Like all the way left.
Again, you didn’t answer my question lol
They are rhetorical socialists at best, then they abandon it as soon as they are elected
Establishment Dems are corporatist fascists. And to be honest I would lump communists and Marxists into the corporatist camp too because there is very little difference between them and the other corporatists across the political aisle.
Communists and Marx is Left... To each according to their needs crap. That's the modern left. That's what they want.
Marx’s actual thought is Left, and I think honestly adjacent to Bitcoin but we can discuss that a different time and others can feel free to yell at me here if they want 😂
The “Marxist” ideology that spread from his thought was not Left. Communism is definitely not Left, especially the Stalinist strains. Stalinism was a right wing (basically fascist) counterrevolution against the emergence of decentralized peasant revolution in what would become the USSR.
All of their rhetoric was from the “Left” or what we call the “Left” now. Almost none of their actions supported their rhetoric. Just like the establishment Dems in my opinion.
And I threw this quote up in a note yesterday in response to one of nostr:npub1t3ggcd843pnwcu6p4tcsesd02t5jx2aelpvusypu5hk0925nhauqjjl5g4 ‘s notes but it fits this discussion so I’ll use it again:
“Between the newly ordained Jesuit, the young Marxist, the fresh staff officer, Enarque or MBA, there is no appreciable difference. All five are dominated by method and each of their methods arises from a common source. Appearances suggest that there must be some serious differences among them, since they regularly do battle with each other on behalf of their countries or professions. The differences must lie, therefore, in the content which they subject to their universal method.
Or perhaps their rivalry is the result of their respective interests which, if the ferocity of their battles tells us anything, differ greatly. Yet when you examine these differences or the content involved or even their respective interests, you search in vain for any remarkable contradictions. All that separates them are the positions they occupy. They defend the structural interests assigned to them by their system. And even then, if you remove the screen of ideology, the ends they seek are pretty much of a kind.”
Saul, John Ralston. Voltaire's Bastards (p. 108). Free Press. Kindle Edition.
Staunch * not stomach 😂