its worth noting that nostr:nprofile1qqszrqlfgavys8g0zf8mmy79dn92ghn723wwawx49py0nqjn7jtmjagpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uynmh4h not being able to locate any relevant information about this address says close to zero about moneros receiver privacy.

likewise a random 3rd party not being able to locate information on a LN tx says extremely little about the overall state of LN privacy.

if you want privacy from the public, you can use a fiat bank.

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I'd like to see a random 3rd party locate information on *any* LN tx

Are you up to the challenge?

I'm perfectly willing to concede that is likely true.

I also assert its a stupid and meaningless challenge you're only doing to stir up the shit.

Don't random nodes on a route see information? Custodians and LSPs do as well. All third parties that ideally shouldn't have information about a transaction between me and you.

> Don't random nodes on a route see information?

Yes

> Custodians and LSPs do as well

True

> All third parties that ideally shouldn't have information about a transaction between me and you

Agreed

*Now* can you find an LN transaction?

Nope I can't. The way you tell me you use Lightning I'm pretty confident you have relatively strong privacy. I don't think that is true though for most Lightning users.

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