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Love how the trolls pipe up, so that they're easier to mute.
🐶🐾🤣🤫you’ll scare them off !
I don't mean to sound insensitive , but wouldn't it have been wise for Roya to have done the same (muted), rather than to have left the protocol, leaving even fewer girls and women than before?
I've got a mile-long mute list, myself, but it's unnerving to know that your conversations are actually interspersed with a small army of perverts and haters.
Men don't have this problem, as often, and they find it less disconcerting.
I agree that men likely do recieve less of this type of behaviour from creeps and so on, and that when they do they are less sensitive to it, but what are we to do if it is a question of biology?
A developer couldn't possibly allow for what somebody might find disconcerting, not to my knowledge at least.
The best solution they have is for everyone to choose what they do and don't see.
There is one solution that is not yet economically feasible. It is practically possible to train a “guardian” ML model to perform vetoing of notes that reach the person’s eyes, and have a tunable threshold 🐶🐾🤔
I had no idea. Perhaps a solution is at hand.
Let me think about how we can make it economically feasible. We can do it now already, but at great and unsustainable cost. 🐶🐾🫡
Yes, women should be able to put up a "gentlemen only, please" sign and keep the riff-raff from interacting with her, at all.
Having to mute them means I had to see them and possibly their "artwork", first.
Does seem like something ML would be good at preempting, like an electronic doorman.
And mutes need to finally transport effectively across clients and be persistent.
Everytime I switch, they pop back up and I have to remute, and I can see their convos with other npubs and their boosts and pervy/antagonistic reactions, reposts and zaps.
I had Compromised Account regularly popping up in my Amethyst feed and notifications, for instance.
Absolutely! I wouldn’t mind to have one for myself tbh. I am thinking that all notes from follows should be allowed, reposts from non-followed should be scanned at low scrutiny level, replies from non-followed should be scanned at different levels depending and npub reputation. All the parameters should be configurable by the users (levels per sentiment). This will require for the user to use a single aggregator relay, but I think it’s very much doable. 🐶🐾🤔
Am I to believe, to condense this idea down to it's most basic elements, that you are suggesting an AI that will go out and mute people for you BEFORE you have some unsavory encounter?
Could we go a step further and surmise that this could lead to the idea of 'pre-crime'?
Somebody I follow says X and Y but not Z
I simply cannot tolerate Z, and since people who speak of X and Y invariably follow it up with Z, I filter them out on the presumption that they WILL offend me in the future for something not yet come to pass?
Not exactly. No muting will happen, notes that user “tunes” to be not welcome, will not be delivered to the client. If user follows the other person, then they could have an option not to filter at all 🐶🐾🫡
I see. The possibilities of AI frighten me for the simple reason that I don't know what they are, and inversely, their limitations.
It is not LLM AI, it is just an ML model that rates the text content based on its themes. Just like your regular spam filter but a bit smarter 🐶🐾🫡
These abbreviations are jargon to me, must research this.
Can zaps be used like hash cash’s intended use, but on the protocol level?
Not sure what you mean, please elaborate. 🐶🐾🤔
HC - Cut down on email spam by proving some amount of work was done to send the message to the receiver.
Zap Stamp - Like a black list/white list on an email filter, but the threshold to post for any replying/commenting npub is “x amount of sats”.
For someone like Roya, all npubs would be prevented from replying without putting up the “zap stamp” fee (the amount of sats Roya receives before a reply/comment can be published to her original note) UNTIL an npub is added to an approved posting list that waives the fee (this list would remain small because it is one she manages as her own web of trust).
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This may be too complex right now with zaps being a tad buggy in the sense that clients are doing zaps/wallets in different ways.
You mean that you'd have to zap-to-interact?
Yes.
Keeps bots down, but not creeps.
Right? That might actually increase creep ratio 🙃
I disagree. Right now it’s effortless to spin up npubs so mute list is as effective as blocking bots on twitter.
Real humans wanting to be creeps to a user like Roya online using Nostr would have to expend more time and money to continue their antics.
You would have to set the price high enough to be onerous, and then the normies will stay away.
I'd like something like this to block adult inages and other degenerate content. I wabr to be able to check nostr without worrying about family and kids seeing something obscene on my phone
imagine going to a party where everyone is kind and and friendly, except that one guy who is annoying, creeps on you and makes you feel uncomfortable. heck, he may even hate you and want to plot your death and the death of anyone who is remotely like you.
now, imagine going to a party but every person is that guy. This person not only internally thinks you're a shitstain but openly vocalizes their opinions as facts. And it's a whole room of these people, all cursing you in chorus for simply being who you are. Oh, but there's one person who is kind and nice.
Doesn't seem worth it to stay, does it.
I think this allegory is a smidgen hyperbolic, and entirely rhetorical but I'll assume it's being asked in good faith:
No of course I wouldn't tolerate that environment.
The main alternative is walled gardens, but it's sort of sad.
Women hiding from public spaces because men are allowed to run wild.
Internet cloisters.
Everyone is afforded the right to 'run wild' on Nostr, and we all have a mute button.
Perhaps your phrasing is a touch defamatory, look around, many men are caring and sensitive to the discomfort of others.
Is there a way to make a private account?
That way you can be more selective of who follows you?
Private accounts could also have remove follower option. #asknostr
I've thought about this, yet being respected and respecting online others is a trait that we're missing a bit of, when using all social medias. I'm quite a direct person offline, I've put others respect before my own. Quite difficult to do it as part of a job. However, If you want a private meeting or message, contacting the person account privately and from public eyes is an option. If the account it's disrespectful to you, then report it, mute the account, step away from interacting.
Basically be mindful of what you post on social medias.
Says... Me🙄🤣
I agree in principle. I daresay she muted early & often. She was both strong, as an independent sovereign individual, and vulnerable, as a young attractive woman. I imagine she grew weary of the constant vigilance. I think, I hope, she knows she has family here who care, and misses her very much. #PleaseComeBackRoya
Absolutley. What a shame for her to leave, she is well liked here by many.