Ok for simplicity, let’s just set aside port forwarding and just look at the degree of complication here:

Let’s say it’s actually an issue of switching to IPv6 and then connections are native and require no setup (I’m not seeing how that’s the case, but for the sake of exploring it). That still means we need to update millions or even billions of devices before this is workable. We need to adjust it on all clients, hardware, routers etc. maybe many are “ready,” but how and when do we activate to know it’s not an issue? It’s like trying to coordinate a hard fork on #Bitcoin.

The huge benefit of something like Holesail is it requires no updates or actions from literally anyone else. We can implement it on just two different devices and viola, it works. It’s like finding a way to do the same thing as the hard fork except it works within a single transaction without any other changes to anything.

Without a doubt IPv6 would make this all much easier, though from my understanding it will still not solve some of the important pieces. However even if it did, it’s far and away the vastly more difficult path that requires coordination and dependence upon tons of other people, devices, and software for it to truly work. Holesail works right now. I use it daily. Until there is a better solution, it seems to be the best by far, at least in my experience.

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OK. For the most part, we have consensus 👍