As a foreigner, I've been researching 401k's for the last 30 seconds using ChatGPT

What is a 401K?

ChatGPT said:

A 401(k) is a U.S. retirement savings plan offered by employers. Key points:

Defined-contribution plan. You put in money from your paycheck before tax (traditional) or after tax (Roth, if offered).

Contributions often get employer matching up to a limit.

Investments usually go into mutual funds, ETFs, or similar options chosen from the plan.

Money grows tax-deferred (traditional) or tax-free (Roth).

Withdrawals allowed from age 59½ without penalty. Early withdrawals usually incur a 10% penalty plus taxes.

Required minimum distributions (RMDs) start at age 73 (traditional only).

It is a tax-advantaged way for U.S. employees to build retirement savings.

Want me to contrast it with UK pension schemes for context?

You said:

I understand it didn't start life as a pension plan, but ended up replacing them. Is this true? If so why?

ChatGPT said:

Correct. The 401(k) was not created as a pension plan. It emerged from a loophole in the 1978 U.S. tax code.

Timeline and shift:

Pre-1970s: Most large employers offered defined benefit pensions (guaranteed lifetime income). Risk was on the employer.

1978: Congress added section 401(k) to the tax code. The original intent was to give executives a way to defer tax on bonuses and stock options.

1980s: Benefits consultant Ted Benna realized the rule could be applied broadly so ordinary employees could defer salary into tax-advantaged accounts. Employers saw it as cheaper than running pensions.

1980s-1990s: Employers shifted en masse. Pensions are expensive and volatile, since the company must guarantee returns and cover shortfalls. A 401(k) moves the risk and responsibility to employees.

By 2000s: 401(k)s became the dominant private-sector retirement plan. Pensions remained mostly in government and some unionized sectors.

Why the replacement happened:

Cost control: Pensions are open-ended liabilities. A 401(k) fixes employer costs at the contribution match.

Volatility avoidance: Pension funding depends on market returns and interest rates. Companies disliked the balance-sheet swings.

Regulatory shifts: ERISA (1974) and later rules increased pension oversight and insurance costs.

Workforce mobility: Employers argued 401(k)s suited modern, more mobile employees.

Financial industry push: Wall Street profited from mutual funds and fees in 401(k) plans.

So yes: 401(k)s were an accident of tax law, later seized on as a cheaper alternative, which led to the slow death of private-sector pensions in the U.S.

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Please I need any amount of Funds to support my Project I don't want it to collapse 🙏

Me every time I got tenured enough to be fully vested 😅

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What is tenure?

ChatGPT said:

Tenure means permanent employment status, usually in universities.

In academia, tenure is a contract that protects a professor from being fired without cause after a probationary period (often 5–7 years). It is meant to guarantee academic freedom.

In employment law more generally, "tenure" just refers to the length of time someone has been in a job or role.

In property law (especially in the UK), tenure means the conditions under which land or property is held (e.g. freehold, leasehold).

Do you want the academic sense, the workplace sense, or the legal/property sense?

What is vested?

ChatGPT said:

Vested means a legal right or entitlement has become fully owned and cannot be taken away.

Employment/benefits: When pension contributions or stock options are vested, the employee has earned the right to them even if they leave the company.

Property/law: A vested interest is one that is secured and enforceable now, not just a future possibility.

General: Having a guaranteed right, often after meeting certain conditions.

Do you want me to unpack it in the pensions/finance sense or the legal/property sense?

Most places will have a rule that you don't get to keep the employer matching funds that go into your 401k until x number of years. So you have to work there usually 3-5 years before you're "fully vested" and you can keep those benefits. It's horseshit, but I always pay close attention and don't quit before that happens (I often quit right after 😅)

I was aware of share vesting from my career as an investor, but needed a wider understanding.

Same with tenure, I had heard it in an academic sense, but never really understood its meaning.

Thanks Mike, i learned something there.

Same 😂

Public pensions in US have no ERISA reporting requirement btw

ERISA = Employee Retirement Income Security Act.

It’s a 1974 U.S. federal law that sets minimum standards for retirement and health benefit plans in private industry.