You think bullying should be a crime?
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It is a crime.
Something being illegal doesn’t mean those laws will be enforced. Nor does something being legal make it ok. Slavery and colonialism were legal. The Oregon state constitution banned black people from the state and interracial relationships until 2003.
US courts and legal scholars aren’t even sure how many kinds of crimes there are in the US.
Fantastic. Now that you got some philosophy out if the way, what does that have to do with my reply? Literally none of what you said has anything to do with what I wrote.
Its a crime to call someone fat?
In some countries to some people? Yes. It is illegal in Thailand to call the king fat.
In the context of schools most places verbal insults are not crimes. But what I’m saying is that the shouldn’t be treated as a criminal matter. That’s why it’s good to not have police in schools. Because if a kid refuses to do what a teacher says it’s not a crime, but refusing a police officer in the US is failure to follow a lawful order which is a criminal offence.
I don’t think the criminal justice system is the right way to deal with most bullying. It doesn’t address the causes of bullying and even if convicted the bully will be back in the same school very quickly. There are better ways to stop that antisocial behavior.
You are correct. We should take bully's to the public square and humiliate them in front of their community like the weaklings they ate.
So communism?
For a non-intellectual? Sure, you can call it whatever you wish.
For normal folks, communism an economic needs and capital ownership assesing economic system, and has literally nothing to do with punishing criminals who don't obey the very basics of another person's liberty and freedoms.
But thanks for playing. I have zero doubt you gave it your all.
I mean you are talking about communal punishment...
You can hide behind definitions all you want. I know communism when I see it
Yes. I believe in the community punishing dunces if society. You wouldn't last long in my city.
So justice is something to be shared with the community? For the greater good?
Yes. That's literally the point of courts and punishing bad behavior.
Societal policing, elected justices, a jury of our peers, keeping ciminals and those who violate others liberty are punished by their community.
Hi, I'm history, you new here?
I think you aren't picking up what I am putting down.
Timmy calls Kelly fat. Timmy is tried and convicted in a court with an elected judge of his peers. You then suggest that Timmy be punished by the entire community. Is it justice for Kelly or for the community? Are Kelly's idea of justice the same as the communities? What if Kelly just wants an apology? What if Kelly wants to pay somwone to beat him up? What if Kelly is so humiliated by this while ordeal she just wants it all to go away? Maybe Kelly just wanted money?
But no Timmy needs to be dragged in front of everyone to be publicly humiliated and shamed and punished by everyone in the whole community. I am sorry but that sounds like a communist form of justice. Capitalism is much more effective. I don't even have to use an elected judge or jury of my peers. I and/or my counter party can pay a judge to settle any dispute or I can hire a bounty hunter. The way things used to be done throughout history