At this point, Tor should come pre-installed and running at all times as part of Android.

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Oh yeah a native for daemon would be sick. Would resolve a lot of instability the orbit proxy can have at times.

Please no. It's so painfully slow, I just can't be bothered. Zerotier, tailscale yes please

Ugh.

NO!

My internet connection at home is so bad, I limit tor usage. I already run a VPN. Tor through a VPN on a crappy connection is NOT a good combo.

Why are you running tor through a VPN? That is not good and hurts the anonymity protections it provides (and also slows down the connection even more). If your VPN app allows exclusions, exclude your tor only apps.

Android having Tor pre-installed doesn't mean it then has to be used by an App. It would just mean that it's available in a reliable and non-distracting way for any App that needs it.

would

In /e/ they ship it by default, just one toggle away.

add it to amethyst ✌️

Tor? We already ship with it. :)

oshii thanks. do you use Tor or Arti?

Tor, I keep hearing that Arti doesn't have enough nodes yet. But we could change. Or run the two at the same time.

Yes 💯

I use orbot/amber/amethyst and it's frustrating, bc I have to restart the orbit VPN after every longer phone-sleep. Then I have to tap amber and amethyst multiple times (because they for some reason crash) to get the combo working together flawlessly again. Then it works great until the next sleep 😢

wen bandwidth improvement with Tor or is it even a thing