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People who say this like its a bad thing don't understand how to bootstrap networks.

100,000 users on a network talking about 100,000 different topics dies in a matter of days, because there's literally nobody to talk to about *your* topic and no cohesion at all in the network. 100,000 users in one community is a solid network.

Look at every successful network in history, it *always* starts with an atomic, self sustaining network around a single community or purpose.

- Amazon. Only sold books.

- Uber, Lyft, and pretty much any rideshare service. All got a critical mass in ONE city before expanding.

- Airbnb. Started exclusively and got success in San Francisco.

- Napster. Started with almost exclusively music

- Facebook. Exclusively Harvard students

- Twitch.tv started as just one guy streaming his life and then targeted gamers.

- Pinterest, focused entirely on "mom-bloggers"

This list goes on and on. What he is describing is literally *the only way alternative networks are ever successful.* So contrary to the idea that this is bad, it's actually the only reason Nostr is still here. Because you can find most of the best bitcoiners, tons of great holistic lifestyle content, and cypherpunks wanting to build awesome shit.

That's actually a fantastic start and we should LEAN INTO THIS MORE, not steer away from it. We do so at our own detriment if we just complain about and fail to embrace the community we DO have.

- Tinder. Literally grew itself locally one frat and sorority party at a time.

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My BitcoinTwitter Bros suggested I come here.

I wouldn't lean into it more, though, as it's already quite all-consuming, and that market has been tapped out and is shrinking.

It's easy to miss the jump into new markets and die from lack of growth.

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Also, a social network can have a mix of large-topics and small topics and be successful.

Because people have multiple topics of interest.

I think some critics miss that we're actually the new hacker bulletin board, for the AI age. That's the second "large topic" that keeps me interested. Bitcoiners tend to be techy people, so that sort of naturally rolled off into a second subgroup.

I don't know how far that can scale up, as AI crawls the space and quickly makes our innovations into commodities, but we've managed to stay a step ahead, so far. And we're increasingly getting concrete business interest as topical experts or consultants, so there's that, to motivate us to stick with the topic.

Biggest hurdle, for us, has been in building something so "far away" from the Primal social feed, that we can present and market the underlying protocol.

Nostr is great at being an information database.

Yeah, that's why we're using it for an AI-enfused, fully distributed, Big Data project. Very novel system.

It's been a real slog, but we're finally getting somewhere with it and getting a chance to demo it to new audiences. The market interest is definitely there, primarily from large organisations who manage their own data and want to create a sort of Internet/Intranet hybrid.

It's a shame that people who visit Nostr don't find out about us, as we have no clout here, but we're pounding the pavement outside of Nostr. That's why I stay bullish.

Nostr has a unique opportunity because (unlike Stack Overflow, Twitter, Facebook, et al.) we're designing the architecture _after_ ChatGPT came on the scene. That means we can do complex tasks with a very thin tech stack. Everyone else is trying to modernize and smart-ize their technical debt, but we don't have any technical debt. (Other than stringified json in Kind 0 content 😠😜, a pox on all their houses.)

AI is part of the core tech stack here, and not some creepy service we sell to spy on our captured herd of users.

I think that's an asymmetric play, that might be a

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"Bros"? Bleibt doch auf eurem Twitter-Käfig. Bitcoin ist das einzige, was zählbar ist, alles andere ist Schrott. Wachstum? Mit dem System? Die einzige richtige Chance ist die Unabhängigkeit. Don't trust, verify. #BitcoinOnly #NoMoreTaxes

Abnb didn't stay _only_ San Francisco.

Mommy bloggers was a ginormous market, with constant new entrants.

You would think Bitcoin talk would scale like mommy talk, as lots of people become new parents or buy Bitcoin for the first time, but most people prefer talking about their family life, than about their currency's emission rate.

We're more like Stack Overflow, in that regard, and SO is being crushed by AI. You don't need to interact with *people*, in order to find out about *things*, anymore. You can just ask ChatGPT, "How is the emission rate for Bitcoin calculated?"

Bitcoin is also inherently a slow moving space. Doesn’t matter how much you try, there’s nothing to interact with. There are tens of thousands of explanations, analogies, etc. out there.

So most Bitcoin talk ends up being product salesmen and hypebros.

Or motivating memes.

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I'm talking about how to bootstrap a network and keep it thriving. I'm not saying you stop doing things. Amazon became a massive success selling only books, but do they only sell books today?

I'm saying that if we want to be the network for *everything8 one day, we need to look at what the network is working for today, and embrace and expand those.

In other words, i think our best opportunity today is the health and holistic living communities. That can expand massively into a general audience that doesn't know anything about bitcoin. Its by far, imo, what Nostr has the most content on already, and has the biggest area to grow.

We're betting on documents, academic journals, technical specs, and books. Good to see that people think Nostr has a chance in other areas, as well.