Dr Stu: "When you go into labor, your midwife will likely be the one that's there, as opposed to the medical model, where if your doctor is a group of 10 doctors, you have a one in 10 chance of having the person you've been seeing be your caregiver. And now you get a different nurse and a different doctor, a complete stranger.
"This is not how mammals feel safe. This is not how labor progresses smoothly. So labor becomes dysfunctional, and it's a self-fulfilling prophesy. They do things to make labor dysfunctional, then they say your labor is dysfunctional. We'll fix it by giving you pitosin, without any concern about the fact that there's problems with artificial pitosin. They don't tell you there are risks to that medication. Then of course the contractions get really strong, and since you have to be monitored now, because you're on pitosin, you can't move. So you have to get your epidural.
"Then your epidural, as I said earlier, disconnects you from your baby (I have this theory about that). Then the baby suddenly isn't connected to mom through hormonal change anymore, because mom is now snoring or sleeping because she's comfortable.
"The baby is still getting squeezed every two to three minutes. And baby doesn't know where mom is, and so the baby starts to get a little panicky and its heart rate begins to show some fluctuations.
"The doctors don't like that, so the doctors say, 'Well, your baby's not tolerating labor very well. I think we should do a C-section.' Then you're supposed to feel relieved that you had a C-section.
"It all started because they were meddling with you in the first place. Except in those rare occasions, again, maybe 10% of women, maybe 15% of women, who really need the hospital model, who may need a surgical birth.
"But what about the other 60% or 70% in your country that are having C-sections that don't need it? They're all told they need it.
"Your question was, 'They're all told there's a reason for it.' Of course there's a reason for it! They're not going to be told, 'I'm doing it because I want to be home by dinner.' But that's often the reason."
Dr Stuart Fischbein with Jerm @ 31:29—33:24 (recorded in 2024, posted 2025-03-06) https://podbay.fm/p/jerm-warfare-the-battle-of-ideas/e/1741328385?t=1889