Same, but I didn't zombify so that's good
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Do people actually believe this or are the joking to have some laughs?
I dunno man, the rumors ahead of this were wild and utterly unfounded
There are significant strains of apocalypticism is evangelical Christian and adjacent subcultures. Ever read Left Behind?
https://www.amazon.com/Left-Behind-Novel-Earths-Last/dp/1414334907
> 63 million copies
Nope, but I'll see if I can add it to my list of books to listen to while running / walking. Thanks.
DON'T it's brain cancer, and I say this as an evangelical Christian. Just watch the movie trailer instead, it's Nicholas Cage's most gloriously low energy role.
Nick Cage doing⦠low energy ?!
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I know right, you can just tell how sad he was to have to do that movie π
Actually, watch the trailer from 2000, it's just as bad and will give you a better idea of what the book is about
ππ Okay! I misunderstood ππ Thanks again. That trailer is bad.
Like the Book of Enoch?
Not that kind of apocalypticism. I think? Haven't read Enoch
it's a book that would have been in the apocrypha but was outright purged from the catholic canon despite having a long history and being clearly the original text from which many of Jesus' sayings actually originated.
i first saw it in a collection of books from a new agey type and it thus didn't get much attention from me, but maybe it was a different book, i don't know.
but after reading some other books ... yeah... apocalyptic events do happen. there was something that kicked off the cold period around 12000 years ago, causing the 'dryas' and largely wiping out humans across north america and europe at the time, it probably was a meteor storm.
if something like that were to be coming again, one would want someone from the sky to come.
Similar to Revelation, my impression of Enoch is that it's apocalyptic in the technical sense, meaning it reveals what is hidden. Modern Christians have change the meaning of the word to mean "the end of the world".
well, it still could be the end of the world that it refers to. also, i totally missed another piece near the end of revelation until recently, in which the angel who brings the vision says that he is just like john...
and in enoch, the 'head of days' expresses regret at failing to purge all of the evil people in the - contemporary to enoch, and his boy methuselah - great flood. one of noah's offspring was a bit odd, pale and red hair, and this was wrong, and he got on the boat, and that was a mistake.
of course, God doesn't make mistakes! lol, that's why two of the most important texts make it pretty patently clear that angels are fallible like us.
i certainly plan to find my way to 'the beloved city' or 'the camp of saints' if i figure out where either of those places are.
Squares with much I've heard about it. Heiser talks a lot about the book. Definitely on my list.
it does indeed make some things very explicit.
it makes it very clear that angels are the same species as us, they can breed with us.
it makes it very clear that the angels were white, as in nordic white, with blonde or red hair (often red, interestingly). i just should add that most people have ancestry tied to the fallen angels, even the darkest central africans, as you would understand, every conception is a shuffling.
it goes into great detail about how these angels can resurrect us and peer into our minds and hearts and collect all the evidence required on Judgement Day.
it makes it very clear that in the future there will be an event that will completely obliterate all life on earth, and that just prior to this, the leader of the rebellion, and it uses the words 'satans' in several places indicating that there is many 'devils' and that they are bound in some kind of high tech, quantum/timelord style prison and have only the power to telepathically communicate with us, and are going to be let out of their prisons just prior to the judgement and following that the 'elect' will be taken up into 'the heavens' and the very souls of these evil angels will be destroyed, along with all their submissive, and wanton servants.
so it is technically revealing things but it also talks about the end of the "world" in the sense of "be of the world but not in the world" - the obedient flock of Satan and his minions, and at the same time, literal in the sense of the face of the earth will be forever changed after this.
not only that, it also talks about how the scriptures would be completely defaced and twisted. not ironic then that the catholic leadership purged this book, even though it contains the clear source of many of the things Jesus says.