Define intelligence. If it’s derived from consciousness, then I am very skeptical that it’s possible.

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how do you define consciousness tho? Awareness of oneself and environment around? are humans the only conscious animals? If not, where is the break point?

That’s the big mystery everyone would like to solve 👍

Yeah exactly, so we are operating with lots of unknowns.

On one hand theres lots of ppl who are barely qualifying for being conscious, on the other hand we dont understand enough about it to make reliable future judgements on possibility of non biological intelligence. So if we can't define it we cant measure it either

Top frontier models are far from conscious but at the same time score very high on many metrics of intelligence we have

oh god not this rabbit hole. XD, this will be a 100 hrs convo

consciousness is separate from our bodies entirely; animals also have it.

humans are not the only ones.