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#node

If you buy your Bitcoin from a KYC exchange, but you run your own node and use your node for all transactions… are you doxxing your node by sending/broadcasting all of your already-identified UTXOs through that node?

If so, then what about if you run this node over Tor. My assumption is it would hide your IP etc., but if there’s some sort of identifier for the node itself, then it still gets doxxed by your KYC corn?

Or maybe I have this wrong. New to this…

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You may have a “passphrase” set along with your private key. If that’s the case, then viewing your wallet without adding that passphrase, the regular seed phrase would appear empty. Good luck!

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You are sending the KYC sats to "someone" address, if anyone (ISP/Gob/etc) can use some data and meta data to identify that you have the keys to move the sats for that address, yes, you are doxxing yourself. If you use the ip from your ISP provider... more easy, they can sniff all the packages. If you use Tor, as you said...they have to put more work to identify you unless you said "Hey, this is my node and my address". In the end, if the big brother wants... can't track you and in the last instance... it's a true/false face to face interrogation to check if that node is owned by you.

If you start from the KYC sats... I only can think about some "I lost my keys", "Some body rob my key and send to some place I don't know about", "I lost my key in the street, maybe someone use it to move the corn to other place".

Any KYC sats need to be acumulate and in one action "lost" in a boat accident, or "other" people get your priv key and move to another place.

In that situation, this "other" person could send those sats to some coinjoin software and "clean it".

My 2cents

This helps a bit, thank you. I’m not really thinking about the privacy of the coins. Just the node - if Node X only broadcasts transactions filled with KYC’d UTXOs, does that effectively associate that particular node with the KYC’d identity?

I doubt KYC will be trackable once funds are used to open channels. But better get an answer from someone who is sure.

I’m not even thinking about a Lightning node - just basic Bitcoin core node to validate your own wallet’s transactions when you receive from the exchange and/or send to cold storage.

Does broadcasting a transaction from your node dox the node if the UTXO was KYC’d? That’s what I’m really trying to figure out.

As far as I know, it will be viewed as a separate on-chain wallet like any other wallet for that matter.

What if you don’t use the node’s wallet? You use an electrum wallet and instead of broadcasting from the electrum node, you connect to your own, Node X, every time.

I guess what I’m wondering is, how much information does the node display about itself when it broadcasts a wallet’s transaction…?

No. Your UTXO is not linked to any IP address

What if Node X only broadcasts transactions filled with KYC’d UTXOs, does that effectively associate that particular node with the KYC’d identity?

Node X over clearnet with no VPN can obviously be identified by the ISP. Node X over Tor is of course more private. But same question would apply. That node only broadcasts transactions that are full of KYC’d UTXOs.

Does this effectively dox Node X’s owner?

Your exchange knows your UTXO, but doesn’t know your IP. Other nodes can see your IP over clearnet, but they won’t know which UTXO you broadcast belongs to you. Nobody can associate a specific UTXO with who you are until you send it back to a KYC exchange.

Sounds like if you were being targeted already, the information would be available (ie this person runs that node) but only with a lot of coordination across parties. Thanks 🫡

Yes. Always run your node over TOR to make it harder to trace 😁👍🏻

That’s the plan 🫡

Any experience with the desktop miner + node combo from FutureBit?

Exploring a bunch of options for nodes and dipping my toes into mining. But I live somewhere that electricity cost is $$$ so there’s no hope of profitability in the short run.

And our building has steam heat included in rent so I can’t even double it as a heater lol

Those are useless. The latest ASICS with 140 tH can mine about 1M sats a month, assuming no downtime, so depending on your electricity cost, it may or may not be profitable. But if your goal is to get KYC sats, this is the only reliable way.

Non KYC

Doing the math with the idea of home mining with an s19J pro (104 tH), just for an example.

Cost of energy: > $0.20 per kWh

Profits: negative $3.5K per year

I’d basically pay a 150% premium for no kyc sats…. As opposed to 2-3% premium via robosats, lol

Woof.

Yeah, but I always wonder how do you know you are really getting non KYC bitcoin with Robosats? 🤷🏻‍♂️